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    Based on the CLA SSD4 expansion pack's promo video, I'd say he "pre-produces" each drum in the kit being recorded to the max before he even commits it to tape, so to speak. Even if he does it afterwards, it's still, I'd say a procedure he's become accustomed to going through before commencing mixing. He knows his sound and could probably concoct it in his sleep.


    Maybe that's why all that stuff was missing from the tute; it's his secret sauce, after all, and IMHO it's probably a bunch of outboard compressors and EQ.

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    Based on the CLA SSD4 expansion pack's promo video, I'd say he "pre-produces" each drum in the kit being recorded to the max before he even commits it to tape, so to speak. Even if he does it afterwards, it's still, I'd say a procedure he's become accustomed to going through before commencing mixing. He knows his sound and could probably concoct it in his sleep.


    Maybe that's why all that stuff was missing from the tute; it's his secret sauce, after all, and IMHO it's probably a bunch of outboard compressors and EQ.

    it's not a matter of how he recorded it but mixed it. When you have the actual track and look at it piece by piece it's very processed and not organic. I'm not a big pop fan and hate the electronic drum loops he uses and fx cymbal hits. Nicky, if you had the pack I think you'd hear what I'm saying. I'm sure everyone knows I love Slash and his tone by now. My ears are used to listening to all of Slash's solo albums which are organic r&r.

    OK, so he applied his "secret sauce" after printing. Same thing 'though; it's his M.O.


    I know that for the SSD4 pack he applied said processing to the raw samples, which were left not raw at all, but that's how SSD's done anyway.


    Slash, eh? You know "Fingers" is a die-hard Slash fan? It's why he took up guitar. He learned Slash's entire last album in a day, IIRC, including all the solos. Bloody freak. :D

    One really funny thing is if you look at the session, the overall use of the real recorded bassdrum. ;)
    What I really liked on the "course" (for me it's more like having an inside look than a real course) is this kind of "do what brings you to your goal" - thing. Yes the sources are recorded very good and everything was edited before, but it's a mixing course not a recording or editing course. There are a few interesting things in this session which leads to clear point, with a good strategy you can do whatever you want. For me it was not such an eye opener but entertaining and a little bit educating and this overhead thing is a great one beside of this whole "highpass on everything" style of in the box mixing. I'm sure this will work pretty good on more organic stuff.


    What I really like to see is an inside look on Elvis Baskette's Slash mixes and approaches. The drum sound on "world on fire" is so amazing, I would give my Kemper for this (and than buy a new one :D ). I'm also a huge fan of the Tremonti solo records which were produced by Baskette too (Alter Bridge, also) but for me the production of them was way over the top...

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    One really funny thing is if you look at the session, the overall use of the real recorded bassdrum. ;)
    What I really liked on the "course" (for me it's more like having an inside look than a real course) is this kind of "do what brings you to your goal" - thing. Yes the sources are recorded very good and everything was edited before, but it's a mixing course not a recording or editing course. There are a few interesting things in this session which leads to clear point, with a good strategy you can do whatever you want. For me it was not such an eye opener but entertaining and a little bit educating and this overhead thing is a great one beside of this whole "highpass on everything" style of in the box mixing. I'm sure this will work pretty good on more organic stuff.


    What I really like to see is an inside look on Elvis Baskette's Slash mixes and approaches. The drum sound on "world on fire" is so amazing, I would give my Kemper for this (and than buy a new one :D ). I'm also a huge fan of the Tremonti solo records which were produced by Baskette too (Alter Bridge, also) but for me the production of them was way over the top...

    Good point. I need to understand what's going on and apply it to my own sound. His mix is awesome for this style of music, I'm just not a fan.


    World on Fire is absolutely amazing! The guitar tone has this weird unique sonic quality that I have never heard before. In the reel to reel you can see in the corner 2 Rivera rock crushers. The first one is doing a speaker EQ and the second is set for a Marshall tone stack EQ. I've been messing around with 31 band eqs trying to mimic it, but who knows what else is being used.

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    World on Fire is absolutely amazing! The guitar tone has this weird unique sonic quality that I have never heard before. In the reel to reel you can see in the corner 2 Rivera rock crushers. The first one is doing a speaker EQ and the second is set for a Marshall tone stack EQ. I've been messing around with 31 band eqs trying to mimic it, but who knows what else is being used.


    Absolutely! And every song seems to have it's own vibe. I like this a lot but I'm sure this is a time consuming and more expensive process. I think one of the "secrets" of the production is, that they've chosen the right sounds for the right song. And mostly it also sounds like they enjoyed doing it. :)


    But to the topic... perhaps if someone is interested in those kind of courses, the stuff from produce like a pro could be interesting. For me grabbing the CLA course was not a waste of money but I got it on sale for fifty bucks so I've spend more money on less entertaining movies at the cinema. ;)

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    For them knowing what sound to use for each song is where pre-production comes into play. Alot of bands i record don't do this even though i recommend it, it can make a hell of a difference to the final out come when you record. I must check out this reel to reel slash thing it sounds interesting

    Theres no real insight in the reel to reel, more entertainment. I just watched it over and over to see if I could find any secret goodies. Watch the video from this point and watch the upper right-hand corner


    https://youtu.be/D5099zkMZL0?t=13m26s


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