volume rhythm and lead

  • OK Wherestug. You and of course also the rest of the gang deserve points for what I allready have done (!) but now clearly explained in words! Thanks !

    Before all this I allready figured out what the best option for me was and therefor I had it set to Post Stack, meaning volume control to the last in the chain, right?


    Back to my topic start. Is having a pure booster in my solo rig the only (if not the best) option to raise volume for that purpose. I tried this but the output led protested in red... Is this due to the chosen amp module? It's not an option to look in 17337 rigs in RM to look for an amp module with enough volume power of its own (and not show red led) for use as a solo sound.

    And you all are right at this point: Only one rig in the gig is enough for this purpose ...

  • There are lots of ways to achieve a solo boost. Which one you choose depends on what sounds best to you.


    If the output is overloading with the boost that just means you don't have enough headroom. I would start from the opposite end. Find the right level for your loudest sound - solos. - without overloading. Just reduce the rig volume and resave the rig if necessary. Then reduce the level of the other sounds to tuck in underneath the solo sound.

  • OK. So the other way around...If I understand you correctly, what about this as a nother way of working:


    Like my main output for FOH (within Master Output) which is set to about -12 dB, I now also use this max volume range for Monitor output. With this I mean the 12 o'clock position

    This would hopefully would need to decrease the volume control for the rig, (the rhythm part) and leaving enough room left to increase this for the solo part, with a max to 0 dB (12 o'clock position) And then save both rigs for that particularly volume setting.

    Is this the right manner to get a substantial difference in volume, to control also with the volume pedal?

  • I am a bit confused. Did you say you have a different rig for solo's ? Why do you need the volume pedal then? Just set it at a higher volume.


    If not then can you not morph the sound with your Roland? Then you just change the output volume via morph ( and I change eq). This negates boosters,. pre and post etc.

  • I am a bit confused. Did you say you have a different rig for solo's ? Why do you need the volume pedal then? Just set it at a higher volume.

    Yes you're right. I have been working with my FC-200 since 2010. When I bought my Kemper (2014) I could that use that too for midi purposes. At that time there weren't morphing options. So I'm used to what I have. And turning everything upside down now is not my option.

    Also it's not an option to turn up the volume after a clean verse and expect a distortion during solo. That's why I use 2 rigs...May be very unconventional but it works for me. Also I know I have to turn to Performance mode, but I have posponed this for a long time....

  • I'm confused too I'm afraid. This seems to be a very complicated way of trying to achieve a very simple objective.


    My suggestion would be to take V8's advice and write out all of the sounds you need (which is probably much fewer than you imagine) and re configure your setup in a more logical manner.


    If that really ins't an option then consider a new foot controller (unless the FC200 can be configured to sent program change on switches 1 - 5 AND CC info on the other switches. In that case you could assign switches 1 - 5 to change rigs in performance mode (with bank up/down to change performance) and use switches 6 - 10 to turn stomps and effects on and off as needed.


    Failing this I would use MORPHING to control multiple parameters at the same time. You can control the morph function with midi CC #11 without the need for the Kemper remote. If you need to keep a separate volume or expression pedal for something like wah then just add another cheap expression pedal for morphing. I believe the FC200 can accept up to 6 expression pedals.

  • No worry guys! As I wrote, it's very onconventional. I know, but it works fine for now: Just a good sounding clean rig and the same for the next rig but with an increased gain en higher volume setting. Whether I have to push a switch on a remote to add distortion to a

    clean rig or pushing a switch on my FC 200 for a second rig with distortion makes no difference IMHO.

    The reason of posponing the other way around is that I can't afford any trouble on stage with the band if I jump now into the unknown ...Really, it works fine on stage the way it is...!

    But I surely will cross this border if I'm more familiar with this. Wheresthedug and V8guitar: your explanation and contribution about this will help a lot. For now: many roads lead to Rome... I took one road but will take a highway in time.

    For now I increase Monitor out ( in Output) for both rigs. And then I decrease Volume for rhythm for one rig and increase solo Volume for the other, leaving both for more headroom with the volume pedal to control. I guess this is a good option.

  • I’m not sure I follow.


    Are you saying you don’t want to try changing your way of wotking on your current KPA incase you mess it up?


    If that’s the case you don’t need to worry. Make a full back up of your current KPA so e that you can reinstate it anytime you want. The browser and performance modes are totally independent of each other anyway so making new performances in performance mode actually loads a new copy of your rigs from the browser pool. Any changes you make in perfmode won’t affect the original rigs in broswer mode. Experiment all you like :)

  • To be clear, you can;t mess anything up. Just set up separate performances ( you have I think 125), so no risk. Its a risk to try a set up eventually when you it in place...