Need a Spring Reverb in the Stomp section , in front of the AMP

    Need a Spring Reverb in the Stomp section , in front of the AMP


    This was the old early 1960's signal routing for california surf bands, and only way to get this tone:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHbcU5ArqBQ



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…V_rtD5iw28QkwONLTe7NpmoY=



    If a good model of the '63 Fender Tube reverb could be created and used in the Stomp section , that would be ideal


    Without this, i must carry my real '63 Fender Tube Reverb unit - or Digitech Hardware RV7 (closest compact unit i have found that gets in the territory of emulating the real '63 Fender Tube reverb.

    +1000
    It is the only effect I am missing in the KPA
    Really hope it will be implemented .
    Congrats, the '63 Fender Tube Reverb is an amazing piece of gear, although a little cumbersome...

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    Quote from GeneAndEddy

    +1000
    It is the only effect I am missing in the KPA
    Really hope it will be implemented.


    there is a really good (bad) ;) sounding spring reverb in the KPA. It's called Matchbox in the Reverb section.
    set predelay to 0, limit the bandwidth a little bit (watch out, there's a lot happening between 0.0 and 1.0 already) and use frequency to turn it brighter.


    I have a few spring reverbs here (Accutronics, Dynacord, no name...) and the KPA can capture their vibes easily.


    what Elantric requested, was a spring reverb in front of the amp, which I can relate to, but it is a very specialized application nonetheless.

    Quote from 01000100

    there is a really good (bad) ;) sounding spring reverb in the KPA. It's called Matchbox in the Reverb section.
    set predelay to 0, limit the bandwidth a little bit (watch out, there's a lot happening between 0.0 and 1.0 already) and use frequency to turn it brighter.


    I have a few spring reverbs here (Accutronics, Dynacord, no name...) and the KPA can capture their vibes easily.


    what Elantric requested, was a spring reverb in front of the amp, which I can relate to, but it is a very specialized application nonetheless.


    Didn't know about that.
    Gotta try this.
    Thanks.

    "The thing about quotes on the Internet is you cannot confirm their validity" - Abraham Lincoln

    Sorry but that is *NOT* a really good spring reverb. It doesn't even sound as good as the $99 digitech digiverb which is 8 year old pedal tech.


    Quote from 01000100

    there is a really good (bad) ;) sounding spring reverb in the KPA. It's called Matchbox in the Reverb section.
    set predelay to 0, limit the bandwidth a little bit (watch out, there's a lot happening between 0.0 and 1.0 already) and use frequency to turn it brighter.


    I have a few spring reverbs here (Accutronics, Dynacord, no name...) and the KPA can capture their vibes easily.


    what Elantric requested, was a spring reverb in front of the amp, which I can relate to, but it is a very specialized application nonetheless.

    I agree with the request of the OP.


    As to the Matchbox, it's not bad but to be honest it's 'not there'. And it (plus any other reverbs and delays) need to be allowed *before* the amp. This is NOT a niche / unusual request..... Anyone who has used a real amp that does not have an effects loop (and there are a ton of them about) may well have used a reverb pedal or a delay pedal in front of the amp so for those guys alone who get used to this sound it makes perfect sense.


    Please realise that I love my Kemper with a fanboy love that probably isn't healthy so please consider that when I say the Matchbox isn't there IMO. I am hopeful that the request goes through and that the reverbs / delays get the same kind of love that the profiles themselves do. I don't use many effects to be honest but it's a rare day when I don't use reverb so more flexibility in this regard would be welcome.

    I find that the fanboy defense of any of the criticisms of the kemper is unhealthy. Your response is fine and is not typical of the fanboy response that I often see. I got into a disagreement with one poster here who was adamantly defending the stomp boxes , particularly the TS9 saying it sounded exactly like a real one. Turns out, he was always using his real TS9 with the gain turned up very high. The kemper version, even with the gain turned down was very heavily overdriven compared to the real thing which can be turned down to be barely noticeable. Same with the vintage fuzz. You can compensate for these issues buy putting a pure gain in front of them and using negative gain but why should you have to do that? I love my kemper but it's a tool and I'm a fan but not a fanboi. I recognize its strengths and weaknesses and currently I consider the time based effects to be weak even compared to some boutique pedals whereas the axefx time based effects are stellar.


    Quote from Gary_W

    I agree with the request of the OP.


    As to the Matchbox, it's not bad but to be honest it's 'not there'. And it (plus any other reverbs and delays) need to be allowed *before* the amp. This is NOT a niche / unusual request..... Anyone who has used a real amp that does not have an effects loop (and there are a ton of them about) may well have used a reverb pedal or a delay pedal in front of the amp so for those guys alone who get used to this sound it makes perfect sense.


    Please realise that I love my Kemper with a fanboy love that probably isn't healthy so please consider that when I say the Matchbox isn't there IMO. I am hopeful that the request goes through and that the reverbs / delays get the same kind of love that the profiles themselves do. I don't use many effects to be honest but it's a rare day when I don't use reverb so more flexibility in this regard would be welcome.

    Agree 100% about the spring reverb, and this along with a few other features and control that the KPA and Remote don't have, is why we have lost the op Elantric (an early adopter) to Fractal for live use. Though he is keeping his KPA for the studio.

    Quote from jzucker

    The kemper version, even with the gain turned down was very heavily overdriven compared to the real thing which can be turned down to be barely noticeable. Same with the vintage fuzz. You can compensate for these issues buy putting a pure gain in front of them and using negative gain but why should you have to do that?


    Yeah, the green scream is too distorted at minimum gain. But, you can turn down Distortion Sense, which will globally give everything less gain. There's usually more than enough gain available within the Kemper anyway :)


    And yes...a spring reverb please! And yes, should be in front of the amp to react/duck with the compression, like the real thing :*

    Quote from Trazan


    Yeah, the green scream is too distorted at minimum gain. But, you can turn down Distortion Sense, which will globally give everything less gain.


    Actually, the pure boost with a negative volume placed before the green scream will work MUCH better for this.

    Quote from Ingolf

    Actually, the pure boost with a negative volume placed before the green scream will work MUCH better for this.


    Better in what way? I'd think they'd do the exact same thing; just reduce gain. But I haven't compared so I might be wrong.


    The advantage of using Distortion Sense though is that it won't affect the (clean) level.

    Quote from Trazan

    Better in what way? I'd think they'd do the exact same thing; just reduce gain. But I haven't compared so I might be wrong.


    The advantage of using Distortion Sense though is that it won't affect the (clean) level.


    Better in the way that you wouldn't mess with global distortion behaviour which would affect all stacks.
    And the clean level wouldn't be affected at all if you switch the negative pure boost plus the green scream
    simultaneously.

    Quote from Ingolf


    Better in the way that you wouldn't mess with global distortion behaviour which would affect all stacks.
    And the clean level wouldn't be affected at all if you switch the negative pure boost plus the green scream
    simultaneously.


    Yes, you'd have to increase gain on already stored rigs to compensate, but it would sound identical. It's only a question of amount of gain. And then you wouldn't have to occupy and engage another slot just to use the Green Scream.