Profiler Stage - Poti Sensitivity (4 Potis below Display)

I believe there is a request to adjust the sensitivity for future OS updates. I don't have a problem setting exact degrees but I do sometime go over or under the amount on the first or second try. Trying to set an exact degree using a mouse pointer on the Rig Manager dials is a whole other story though... Geez!

Quote from BayouTexan

Trying to set an exact degree using a mouse pointer on the Rig Manager dials is a whole other story though... Geez!

Agree that using a mouse for setting delay etc can be a pain but don't forget that holding shift puts RM into fine tuning mode to make those small adjustments super easy.

It would be nice to have a similar fine tune option on the hardware UI too though.

Quote from RichPich

Thank you.
I totally agree. Best option would be an "exponential curve" - i guess.
You know that good old ipod click wheels when brosing your music libary? -> low and slow is one track after another - cranking that wheel gave you 10 - 50 - 100 steps.

-> Sounds good to me

Hm I think this is exactly what we don't need. I need to test but it feels like there is acceleration already.

Quote from RichPich

Or just decrease the sensitivity...

I just think it’s really uncomfortable to dial in certain values.
i have this Problem mostly with the delay time since I’m changing this value quiet a lot.
and I hate the rig manager (so this is no option for me).
nothing game breaking but it‘s annoying (to me).

Totally agree. It is actually uncomfortable, which is saying something :). Planning on recording some videos for support when I find time.

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it feels like there is acceleration already.

there is acceleration already but I think it could be better calibrated to make fine tuning easier. Regardless pf any calibration I believe a specific button click to enter fine tune mode like RM would be a nice addition.

Quote from Wheresthedug

there is acceleration already but I think it could be better calibrated to make fine tuning easier. Regardless pf any calibration I believe a specific button click to enter fine tune mode like RM would be a nice addition.

Yeah it sure feels like it. My point was I'd rather not have anything acceleration at all. Don't mind turning a knob a few times to get from -5 to 5 if that is what it takes.

Just did a quick test:

0-22 seconds (or so). Trying to see how the acceleration works. Seems rather unpredictable.

22-44 seconds (or so). Trying to hit <0.0> with relatively small movements. It keeps skipping <0.0> all together (only shows it once - I pass 0 numerous times) going from -0.2 to 0.3 etc. directly. Very frustrating

I suspect too though that some if it is due to the device being close to what it can CPU wise. If you try to do it while moving a wah/expression pedal it gets much worse.

musicmad I know what you mean but I think the acceleration was added to make scrolling through large menus like the rig browser pool or presets much easier. In those situations it is a major advantage over turning the knob a few hundred times ?

I suppose the real issue is whether all knobs should perform the same way (consistency of user experience) or whether knobs that might have large data sets (rig browser etc) should behave differently to standard parameters. There are arguments for and against both solutions. For me the best solution is probably to stick with consistency but add a “fine tune”button but it isn’t a clear cut one is better than the other. Either solution could work.

Hm I'll have to check but I actually didn't think the stepped knobs had acceleration (type, browse).

Definitely don't wanted it on the lower 4 knobs at least. Did you check the video?

Quote from musicmad

Did you check the video?

no, i think our posts crossed as the video wasn’t there when I posted.

Hi, musicmad,

My Profiler knobs behave differently than yours. Much more predictable.

Kemper Stage

Kemper Profiler (Toaster)

Thanks for the video ST (6 edits no less :)) . I'll make a support case and see what happens.