Will MIMIC= Profiling? AXE II FW 10

Are you sure you meant to post this on this forum...did you make a mistake?

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Aah, I get it, it's an April fools joke.

It's always fun to try out and play with the new Axe II changes.
I was hoping there would be less parameters to adjust.
With it comes some more tweaking days required to fix the altered saved sounds though.

Line6 and other companies also probe and measure real amps and gear to make their component modeling more real. As far as kempers unique profiling technique and the profiling patent goes, Cliff has stated on TGP that he has no interest in trying to do profiling and don't need it, and sticks to component modeling.
Profiling is something we all can use to capture our real amps with. Modeling or mimicing is closed and we can't use it with our amps. It's still a company dictating how their own interpretation of an amp should be modeled, behave and sound like.

A year ago when the forum demand was very high on Fractal to implement kempers new profiling, Cliff instead implemented the already long requested Ozone eq tone matching feature and he called that "our own profiling". That resulted in many users believing that traditional eq tone matching was the same as profiling (and some still do). I've seen many marketing strategies, some better than others.
We won't see the Kemper and Axe fx doing the same things. They are completely different machines with their own tech and algorithms and one use component modeling, one use profiling.

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Aah, I get it, it's an April fools joke.

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Don't get upset, bro, just having some April fools fun...peace.

I promise you when this thread turns into a 30 page thread I will not make one comment, I'll keep far away.

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AXE FW10 is about to drop. I'm interested to see what your guys' thoughts will be on MIMIC vs Profiling when it is released.

"MIMICCTM P.A.F./ASDFÑLKJ v10.1.2.1976" should be better. "Profiling" has only 9 letters and anyone can understand what it means. I bet the first one is more complex, so it's the best.

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It's always fun to try out and play with the new Axe II changes.
I was hoping there would be less parameters to adjust.
With it comes some more tweaking days required to fix the altered saved sounds though.

Line6 and other companies also probe and measure real amps and gear to make their component modeling more real. As far as kempers unique profiling technique and the profiling patent goes, Cliff has stated on TGP that he has no interest in trying to do profiling and don't need it, and sticks to component modeling.
Profiling is something we all can use to capture our real amps with. Modeling or mimicing is closed and we can't use it with our amps. It's still a company dictating how their own interpretation of an amp should be modeled, behave and sound like.

A year ago when the forum demand was very high on Fractal to implement kempers new profiling, Cliff instead implemented the already long requested Ozone eq tone matching feature and he called that "our own profiling". That resulted in many users believing that traditional eq tone matching was the same as profiling (and some still do). I've seen many marketing strategies, some better than others.
We won't see the Kemper and Axe fx doing the same things. They are completely different machines with their own tech and algorithms and one use component modeling, one use profiling.

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So why not implement the MIMIC process into the Axe-Fx? (after the tonematch)

Anyway if MIMIC is pure marketing or not.
I would not be suprised after the last demo that he spend is time to put some profiles of the Kemper into the Axe-Fx and tried to get something more rich, responsive and with distorsions which seem less "linear" or "predictible".
We will have the response in a few weeks and if people think that one Axe-Fx's model sounds like one of their Kemper's profile, it will be the time for the authors to beg for royalties.
If the Axe sounds more like the Kemper it surely will be great for the Axe-Fx's users. IMHOAIM

Just read the full release notes in the Fractal forum - impressive work!

Competition is a great thing.

Let's see what we get in 2.0.

AFAIK this MIMIC is in the FW but will not be made available to the regular users. It will be used by Mothership and a selected number of Beta testers in order to improve the available models, that then will be available for everyone. This is how I've understood it...

I wonder if MIMIC or MOMOC will be available for the Ultra.  [Blocked Image: http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/rclassenlayouts/rclassenlayouts1207/rclassenlayouts120700079/14376873-signes-de-sauvetage-d-39-urgence-fleche-icone-de-sortie-evacuer.jpg]

By the way the first demos sound great.

Here is something about MIMIC:

MIMIC White-paper

This paper is not only about the AXEFX

"One of the newer simulators even allows the user to capture IRs using test tones injected into an actual tube amp and then recording the response of the amplifier. Unfortunately this approach doesn’t allow accurate separation of the amplifier response from the speaker response which limits overall device flexibility and is also subject to significant very-low- frequency inaccuracy due to the absence of system response at those frequencies."

It's blabla marketing.
Where is the patent number? lol

LOL, he just can't stop throwing dirt to the KPA
Unfortunately my AxeII is long gone, so I can't try this magic firmware...