Compare this one to your original. I removed the stereo widener and just boosted the midrange EQ leaving the previous top end cut.
I really appreciate the effort but to me this had the opposite effect of what you're describing. Sounded more synthetic to me. But I'm also experimenting with the stereo widener and some other effects as we speak and like the results so far. Definitely getting closer.
Thanks. Ah, I thought you had worked on the profile itself. To me your sound examples sound like there's some chorus or maybe a phaser on the sound? But thanks a lot for the attempt!
Kaschko How does it sound now? I fattened it up and EQed out some top end.
Seems like I don't have access to that file?
Somewhere in Tim Pierce's videos he has one where he addresses all of the touch, technique, etc. for this type of tone. And he plays / uses La Grange as an example.
I just looked quickly and couldn't find it. But spending time looking through his videos will not be a waste of your time.
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Try turning up the Power Sagging on the Amplifier options. That will increase the touch sensitivity for the rig you're using. I'd try it on about 5 and if it helps then adjust it to your taste. This should get you closer to that clean sound when picking lightly.
Thank you! Will try this as well as some of the other suggestions here and report back to you guys soon.
i think this is a good example of that technique from Tim Pierce:
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Good video! I always liked this technique and will devote even more attention to it since it also forces cleaner playing. Good lesson for this old garage rocker here.
Also, this is a great thread. Thank you to all that have contributed.
I agree. The replies have been extremely helpful.
Regarding the Kemper not behaving like an amp when turning your guitar volume down: It is possible this is due to the guitar.
Remember that I use the exact same guitar as in the Supro video though.
Is there some comments what it is recorded with in the KPA profile?
Fathead & SM57. But I now also see that there's a different cabinet mentioned. Scumbacks M65 2x12. The original combo has a 10 inch speaker, if I'm not mistaken.
Try the Concert Hall Reverb and see what it does.
Wow, turned some notches down I love this one!
also not sure about this video but do you have the exact same guitar as he does?
Yes, same guitar.
in the end it really is all in the hands
I don't disagree. But my question wasn't about the lick or technique but about the Kemper not behaving like the real amp in this case. As has been pointed out before, there's a loser bottom end. These kind of things are clearly audible for me. I like that the amp in the video sounds like it's a real thing about to break down. Maybe I miss the little technical imperfections of the real amp that make it sound so lovely to me?
do you know if he has his volume or tone rolled off ?
He is playing with this a lot. My theory is that the amp is recorded at a higher gain stage than the highest gain version of my profiles and he rolls the volume down. The Kemper doesn't behave in the same way as the real amp. When I roll the volume down the EQ changes in a different way than with the real thing. So this kind of behavior of the real amp seems to be hard to copy.
is he using a Kemper and the exact same preset as you ?
Since this is a demo of the amp I doubt they'd go that route. At the end of the video they are also quite clear about their setup. But yes, nobody can guarantee that they didn't work on it a little in post. If I'd try to sell that amp, I'd do the same.
the rice is done
Hope you enjoyed it 
It has a loose bottom end which starts to come apart when he digs in.
I think this is a very good description of what I miss about this sound. In which direction should I tweak my profile to get closer to this? Boosting the bass?
Here I tried it again after turning the compressor off: Same thing, no compressor
I recorded another clip to illustrate my point.
First have a look at this video, listening to the sound starting at 1:15: Supro Jamesport and Supro Comet "La Grange"
Now listen to my clip: Same setup, Kemper
Obviously he's a much better player but the sound should be very close. This is as close as I could get. Like him I also first use fingers and then change to a pickup. I'm using the same guitar through a profile of said amp.
I am using the Space option in the Kemper to add depth as well as adding ambience and reverb in Logic (sounded better to me than the reverb in the Kemper profile).
Any thoughts on how I could get the sound closer?
The Rhett Shull tweed video is not just a close mic sound. It either also includes room microphone sound, or added room reverb.
If you're right about this it would explain a lot (and it would mean I'm not just imagining things which would be nice, too.)
Maybe the sound I have in my head is based on bands that use this technique a lot? Maybe even the White Stripes did that to get some depth into their two band member setup.
Very interesting food for thought. Probably it would even be possible with the Kemper Kabinet. We're not supposed to close mic it but including a room mic might work.
Is there a common workflow for this thought of setup?
On the amp - your Kemper profiles may be of the same model amp, but they were created with whatever settings the maker of the profile decided on. The microphone(s) used, the mic placement, the speaker(s) in the amp, the EQ settings. Just as in guitars, stick two of the same amp next to each other and will they sound the same? Not likely.
I would agree with you if it would just sound different. But I think there's three dimensionality missing that can't have to do with settings on the amp.
As I mentioned before, the same happened to me when I used exactly the same guitar and amp combination.
Of course it could be the microphones. Could even be the guitar strings. But to me the difference is just a bit too much.
I wanna give you guys an example. Here's a video from Rhett Shull playing a 5e3 Tweed Deluxe. In the opening seconds you can hear the guitar outside a mix. It sounds amazing to me.
Rhett Shull What is the "Tweed" Sound
I chose this example because I have both the M Britt and Tone Junkie profiles of said amp and they are my favorite profiles at this moment. However, I couldn't get near that sound in his video with them. Again, compared to this quality, my versions sound flat and muffled. Not necessarily lacking in treble but in overall character.
Is he just using a perfect overdrive? Did he mic the amp from more of a distance?
P.S.: It might... just MIGHT also be his 3,500 $ Gretsch Falcon...
One thing that will always be missing is room ambience. Mics on an amp will pick up some of the room to a degree, whereas profiles will be bone dry, until you add a reverb or use the Space option (recommended if you’re using headphones).
I totally agree and understand that. But how come that some of the videos of the same amps sound so much more organic/real? Andy from Reverb for example stated he doesn't do any additional tweaking in the DAW to give us the pure amp sound. And when I listen to these clips there is not added space option activated either. Maybe for amp demonstrations people don't put the mic so close to the amp?
One theory of mine is that it's my brain tricking me (or "our" brains since I read many comments similar to mine online): If we watch a video, see the room and the amp with our eyes, it automatically "sounds" more three dimensional.
It depends in your plans.
Let's say it would be good if the looper could save one round of a 12 bar blues.
Just for comparison, the Boss RC1 has a recording time of 12 minutes (alas in worse quality). The Dito Looper has still 5 minutes and the Boss RC-10R can even do a whopping 6 hours, if I'm not mistaken.
The Kemper Profiler can replace so many pedals (I did some A/B comparisons and found the Kemper effects sounded identical) but the looper is not one of them yet. Maybe some day in the future?
It is likely that you have overdriven the inputs of your interface, resulting in a bad sound and unpredictable volume differences.
I'm sure that's what it was. But since I went with SPDIF I don't have that problem anymore. Thanks for taking the time to still read the forums, by the way. Schönen Abend noch.
But yes, you can.
You can set all outputs (Main Output as well as Monitor Output) to different signal sources, including DI signal.
And use the Send for the FX Loop.
Oh, haven't thought about that. That's great!
The Space is not limited to the headphone but can be set to main output as well by clicking the switch above the Space pot.
There is an additional Space effect availble in the Type list.
Yes, that's what I meant by Space "doesn't need to be limited to headphones only". I often send some of the effect into the DAW and like how it sounds.
what is your monitoring setup?
and is it identical to what you are listening to when playing recorded demos?
I am listening through my Beyerdynamic DT880 Pro. That’s what I also listen to when I watch the demos. I also own the Kemper Kabinet.
