Posts by V8guitar

    And here Pete Thorn with some autowah-effect:


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    Does he have a pitch shift on there as well? Sounds pretty good.

    Interesting.....


    From a non pedal guy ( and this has reminded me why I don;t like pedals - none of the real pedals to me sounded amazing), this is a cool feature and I can imagine will appeal to many users.


    Can I hear a difference? Yes but is it very small and you can probably dial it in even closer. I actually preferred the the Quad in some cases anyway!


    I assume ( sure I've ever heard it confirmed) that the KPA can profile pedals in a similar way ( or with some changes to the profiling process) BUT not much point because it can;t run 2 profiles at once and therefore little point going down that route as virtually no one would use a pedal without an amp?


    Its not enough to sway me away from KPA but should be a strong contender in the market!

    I disagree with 'The Kemper is all I need', as when I use the profiled amps more overdriven they sound very different to my real stomps in the send/return stage. I can just dial in my favourite types of sounds with my HBE Power Screamer, or Fulltone OCD.


    If I don't use my real stomps, I find myself looking for 'that' sound for too long.

    My personal point was I've never seen the need for an overdrive pedal with Valve amps. Marshall DSL's don't have enough gain on the Rhythm channel for me, so I went Laney GH100L because it has massive gain levels on tap rather than slap pedals in front on it to make it bend to what I need. They sound different but I actually prefer the sound of the Laney anyway, which in many ways is more about what you become used to - took me 6 months to like my Laney but I now its my fav amp of all time.


    I'm not surprised that real pedals will sound different to emulations in the Kemper. This might be more because that is what you are used to and you know how those pedals react.


    Cool if that's what you need, I can;t stand the hassle factor of pedals, particularly live.


    Funny how we all have different approaches and needs.

    I have one more question, well today at least my Kemper family, I bought headphones and when I used them the sound was slightly different then what was coming out of my cab with some profiles, Is the sound coming out of the headphones closer to what the audience would hear at a show if I went direct? Is the true sound of the profile closer to the headphones and maybe the cab just disguises it slightly?

    Its all about added "colour".


    The main factors are:

    1) Guitar Cab's generally add a significant amount of colour, in most cases

    2) Studio headphones ( as opposed to DR Beats type) try to be "flat" with minimal colouration.

    3) The aforementioned PA element

    4) Volume is also a significant factor


    So you are right, general the sound is closer to your audience sound and a good starting point. Where possible, you need to be able to audition or at least test your sounds at volume through a PA prior to a gig. I used an FRFR speaker ( I have a cheaper 1 for sale if you are in the UK :) ) and rehearsal PA.

    It can be sensitive but it should shut off pretty quick (0.5 second at the most, it feels like. Someone might be able to give the actual speed). If its not, its still detecting some movement. Put it this way, for me its no slower than rocking a crybaby forward to click it off.


    You can obviously switch wah on and off using one of the stomps but that is a bit of tap dancing.


    However, I always hated the crybaby switch anyway as often you don't successfully switch on or off, so either of these options hopefully should be as good or better.

    Many Kemper users will consider you insane for not going direct. (Myself excluded) I really want to make direct work for me and I'm sure I will. But I am so sadly old school that it just seems the easy & lazy way out to just throw a mic on it as it sounds great, done. But the advantages of going direct are so big that I must get there as many many artists have before me. It'll just take a little work like anything does. I have ran nice tube rigs and pretty good digital rigs and the best part about having an awesome digital rig (that sounds analog=Kemper) is that once you spend the time getting it set up the way you want (which can take a bit) you can waltz on stage without a worry in the world, flip a switch and have everything familiar. That makes for me having a good night and that's everything!

    Same could be had miking one but I like the idea of being able to turn up my cab and not red light the board which usually changes things you accomplished at sound check once the soundman backs off the gain and my front wedge goes with it.

    This was me in my 1st year of Kemper ownership - miking a 4 x 12. It works ok but man you do miss a big part of the benefit.


    I do get the hassle, especially when you have a sound you like because I can tell you - I had to effectively start again. I found the profiles I was using were actually not very good but masked by the 4 x12. I had to get an FRFR speaker ( because I had no access other than at gigs) to find the right profiles etc.


    You've nailed the advantages - my set up and line check is so simple and sound men love it. Literally mike lead into kemper, hit a chord, then solo volume and sound man happy. You stop worrying about mike placement ( I've had mikes fall over etc) or if the sound is coming through the PA OK.


    You are not insane but I found it worth the effort. The good news is, you don't have to delete anything and perhaps during lock down is the time to have a go. You need to be able to audition profiles at volume through an FRFR set up really but headphones are a great place to start.

    I assume you've checked the obvious input and output leads?


    Many times I've plugged them in the wrong way round...Otherwise sounds like a faulty Wah.


    I would encourage you to use the built in one to eliminate noise, batteries, click on and off etc...

    Couple of things from me:

    LED lights create a lot of electrical interference so defienatly check those.

    Not all power conditioners are equal and solve the problem, hence why finding the source would be better first

    As mentioned, you won't damage the amp, its the speakers you'll damage.


    That said, I think you will struggle to blow the 4 x 12 and no reason why you should vs any other amp - except that you have 600 watts on tap. In other words, whatever volume you ran at before you should be fine with some headroom.


    Sorry to be the "old man" here but playing at that volume can be counter productive. The KPA sounds great at low volume and obviously being digital doesn't need to be cranked ( although needs some volume to hear what it sounds like due to Fletcher blah blah).


    Its your drummer you need to keep up with ( as they are usually more difficult to control - no volume knob) but I would encourage you to rehearse as quietly possible to pick out issues. High volume can hide so much, which will show up through a PA at a gig. If something sounds good tempered down, it will sound amazing loud...conversely we have found things out at low volume which we missed. Vocals are typically difficult to hear at a loud rehearsal and many a time we've picked up issues with vocals as a result of dropping volume.


    Don't get into a volume war as some people then take it to a gig which becomes a nightmare.


    Few audiences like horrific volume and few sound men like high on stage volume and I think its one of the reasons sound men like the KPA as it gets it down at a relatively low volume.

    Both have a slightly different purpose. FRFR will be as accurate to FOH as you can get. Some people didn't like the FRFR experience this and wanted to capture the amp in the room sound, hence Kemper released the Kabinet. Both are for on stage monitoring and neither are designed to be miked up.


    My view is the FOH sound is the most important. I would suggest if you are happy with the CLR, stick with it. The Kabinet is very good, I've played mine live and really like it but unless you are missing something it will take you 1 step away from the FOH sound.

    Cheers dude!

    The drums are midi and programmed by myself. Tones come from the Getgood drums Invasion kit.


    The wah is an old dunlop crybaby I've had knocking around that I put in the effects loop of the kemper as I currently don't have a midi control pedal though I plan to get one in the future!

    FYI I converted my crybaby to an expression pedal and use the Kemper built in one. Works really well.

    Garrincha V8guitar Garrincha deadman42 - So all of you are telling that you can get the same tones as a Tone Bender mk I, II or III, smiley or any other number of unique fuzz sounds? None of you would put a Chase Bliss Automatone in front of your rig and use it as a overdrive or fuzz? I would love to know how to get all these sounds out of my Kemper. None of you would use a Klon, Timmy or Blues Breaker? All of you think the Kemper can do all this sufficiently enough?

    I can't talk about fuzz because I don't use it. True fuzz to me sounds like a cheap amp/pedal to me so not a sound I go for.


    With regards to your other points, I have never used external drive pedals. For me they are brought in to add something missing from a given amp...to drive a cleanish amp into overdrive. Id rather use an amp with overdrive. Its like don't buy a slow car and try to make it fast. Buy a fast car in the first place.


    I never got the point of having a beautiful valve amp sound with all its harmonic overtones.....what makes a valve amp special... to slap a transistor based pedal in front of it. So for me, I always tried to get the sounds I wanted out of the amp and guitar. The whole balancing the gain stages, noise/true bypass, faff....just unnecessary for me.


    I totally respect people who do this and of course there are many great guitarists that do this despite having unlimited options with amps e.g. SRV. But SRV's sound isn't amazing or mystical to me....its his playing that is!


    Would I use a Klon, Timmy or Bluesbreaker? Nope. Not in the valve world or digital world. This "special" interaction that many people talk about I've not experienced. To me they just push the gain and change the tone. I went through a pedal phase many years ago and had a bluesbreaker - didn't like it at all.


    Do these pedals add something the KPA can't do? Possibly, but I believe even if that is the case its so small that its as much psychological than real - BUT I'm not a sound engineer. I probably can't pick up these nuances like others.


    If you love your pedals, keep them. For me I don't need them.

    Love it! Nice one dude.


    How did you do the drums? I've been debating between my electronic kit ( which I can only play basics) and a drum machine.


    Is the wah the Kemper built in one?

    Im totally an amp gain person partially for this reason. I've never been able to balance the edge of break up sound with an OD pedal and get pleasing results with a valve amp.


    Ironically I've been getting more success with the KPA but not heard any weird issues. couple of things to check out:


    1) Try with different profiles ( Im sure you've done this)

    2) No strange noise gate interaction?

    3) you are using it in the "pre" section not post?

    4) You on the latest version - some changes were made around volume compensation. Probably not related but worth a check?


    Otherwise suggest you post some sound clips so others can try to understand if its "normal".

    Easy mistake to make, even for an experienced user.


    I keep finding things that I should know but I don;t :)


    Perhaps we should have a section for users with over 5 years experience called " Things I should know but am now too afraid to ask" :)


    To be fair to you, your avatar does say you are a "student" so.... :)