Rig Manager 3.0 Editor

  • Reading some posts here lately brings one conclusion:


    The editor is ready for years now but @CK worries about the sexual health of his customers and keeps it away ..don't believe me?Just watch the video again in which he said he stopped hanging around with pc-nerds because there were no women around..


    You think I am joking?Well..:/




    ^^;)

  • One interesting note at the Neural DSP booth at last years NAMM, they had the Nameless Suite and the Fortin Meshuggah amp it was modeled after, and they would switch back and forth while you were wearing headphones. Honestly, I heard no difference. I hear more subtle differences when going back and forth between the Kemper and its source in videos and comparisons. Still impressive, but the Neural test was a dead ringer. VST's have come a looong way.

    I must say that the Nameless was a kind of disappointment for me, but then comes the NTS then the Nolly and the Parallax (for the bass) and these were a whoa-experience to me. The progress the guitar plugins have achieved over the last 5-6 years is fantastic.

  • With Line 6 and Fractal, there's a big sticker on the side, "Some assembly required." So, I just pick a profile that goes where I want to go and play guitar. I don't have to fiddle with the sound. This is about 80% of my use.

    Really interesting read and appreciate sharing your own perspective.


    To the quote above, I would say that differences aren't as far as it's made out to be, but the approaches appeal to some while not to others. I think younger people like building a sound on the computer much more than older people do. However, you spend about the same amount of time "profile hunting", which is essentially auditioning thousands of presets to find ones that work for you. That makes sense given the variables in profiles from amps to settings to cabs to speakers to mics to mic positions to mic preamps, etc. Some people would just rather scroll through presets to find the right ones, others would prefer to sculpt a model into what they want from the beginning.


    There are some guys here who were in the Axe world and didn't like editing and tweaking that way, and that's perfectly understandable. There are others who quite like it and they feel it better helps them achieve the sounds they want, also perfectly understandable. It's really a matter of methodology and preference. I just notice older players view desktop editing like computer work, not like the classic amp designs they are more familiar with. The functions are remotely the same whether a Kemper or an Axe-FX or a Helix, it's just that the Kemper's UI feels more familiar, but they're still manipulating digital algorithms like you would on a Helix, only not on a desktop.


    The Kemper editor will really help bridge that generational gap and everything in between.

  • I must say that the Nameless was a kind of disappointment for me, but then comes the NTS then the Nolly and the Parallax (for the bass) and these were a whoa-experience to me. The progress the guitar plugins have achieved over the last 5-6 years is fantastic.

    Could be you just plain don't like the amp, and there's nothing wrong with that. The comparison at their booth was pretty uncanny.

  • Or I just didn't play with it enough to love it. :)

    If someone asks me which guitar plugin I would recommend at this moment, the answer would be Neural DSP.

    A buddy of mine is their social media guy. Dude is always gushing about the plugins, the company, and new stuff that he can't wait to talk about. They really seem to be doing something special.

  • TH-U Overload looks good (I’ve not tried it thought) but as I’m a kemper “fanboy” :/ I will stick with it editor or not...I mainly use it live so I have the sounds I need and the hardware interface works fine for me.


    I still would like the editor for ease and to save the poor old knobs and buttons from wearing out.

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    There are some guys here who were in the Axe world and didn't like editing and tweaking that way-

    I didn’t like that I was tweaking it all the time! Too much to gob knob for me I guess. I don’t have that issue with the Helix Editor.

    If you use FRFR the benefit of a merged profile is that the cabinet is totally separated in the profile.


    For my edification only... :D Kemper/Helix user

  • You guys are sorely missing out if you’ve never tried any of the Universal Audio stuff. It is eons above everything else I’ve got (Waves, Overloud, Neural).

    i have several UAD plugins but never bought any of the amp models they have after demoing. Most likely because I am a cheapskate and only have a Duo and a Quad.


    i did eventually (P.K.) buy the BX version of the Chandler as well as their Rock Rack. Mesa, Bassman amps. i got most of them for less than $29 or almost free with a voucher.


    P.K.=PreKemper :)


    IIRC the UAD and the BX Chandler are the same. it is nice IMO.

  • I also seem to notice that us older folks have more patience, not like the instant gratification generation that has a whining breakdown when they don’t get things NOW. Our own fault for not teaching patience and learning to deal with disappointment.

  • In most respects you are right I think.

    So you found a VST that sounds as good as a Kemper? Whats the name of this marvel? If its from Bias then yes it sounds good to me too but doesn't come anywhere near the tones in my KPA. As Always YMMV.

    Neural Plini, STL Putney, Benson are really really good. I can't honestly say the Kemper is better. Amp sims have exploded in the last year. Putney's vst drops his KPA pack in it's tracks, no comparison imo.

    Disclaimer: When I post demo clips for profiles, there will be some minimal post-processing, unless stated otherwise. I normally double-track hard L/R, and add to the main buss a small amount of EQ and a limiter/comp set pretty light as well. Sometimes I get test profiles in advance of release, though 90% of my clips will be from packs I have purchased.

  • I also seem to notice that us older folks have more patience, not like the instant gratification generation that has a whining breakdown when they don’t get things NOW. Our own fault for not teaching patience and learning to deal with disappointment.

    I simply can't agree. Older folks in my experience can have less patience, it's just over different things. Plenty won't even try something new or try to understand it, having zero patience to begin with. So it serves that they would be more patient with something they haven't come to expect based on the conditions they are used to.


    Younger people can still be impatient, but about different things based on the environment they've grown up in (which was made and reinforced by older generations). Life with computers and the internet allows information to be much more instantaneous. That's actually a good thing IMO.


    But let's not pretend that humans aren't humans and haven't behaved in exactly the same way for as far back as we can read. Aristotle complained about the younger generation being spoiled and disobedient. Should sound familiar, since it's been the inevitable cycle for centuries.

  • You guys are sorely missing out if you’ve never tried any of the Universal Audio stuff. It is eons above everything else I’ve got (Waves, Overloud, Neural).

    Love UA and running an Apollo Quad!

    If you use FRFR the benefit of a merged profile is that the cabinet is totally separated in the profile.


    For my edification only... :D Kemper/Helix user

  • Maybe it's just around you? :P  :D

    For real, though. I'm used to boomers calling everyone spoiled since I was 5-6 years old, and it's yet to relent. Doesn't really seem to matter what it's about or if it's rationally justified. :D


    BTW, I'm not trying to swipe or paint with too broad of a brush. The differences are actually interesting to me, but when someone gets cynical and starts the "get off my lawn" gambit, I feel it's important to point out that things are much more nuanced than is being let on.