FW 3.0. Questions About DI / Mic+Cab Profiling

  • Hi everyone!.


    I'm trying to understand all potential of new FW3.0, specially DI Profiling.


    For my experiment... I have this gear:


    PRS Singlecut
    Diezel VH4 (CH3)
    Bogner Ecstasy Cabinet (Using a TAD 16 ohms Silencer Line Out for the DI signal)
    Shure SM 57 On Axis


    The Method:


    First step, I profile my sound with KPA typically, using Diezel + Cabinet + Mic... New Profile! (Mic Profile)
    Second step, I connect TAD Silencer Line Out to KPA Return Input for DI Profiling... New Profile! (DI Profile)


    Now, when I select my DI profile the CABINET part of the preset is off.


    The problems begins here....


    I know two ways for have a merged profile.


    1. Select my Mic Profile and using LOCK to lock the cabinet+mic portion of the profile and later go to the DI Profile. ---> They sound very similar.
    2. Select my Mic Profile and holding CABINET I can select the cabinet+mic portion of my previous Mic Profile, then I STORE the new profile.


    Second method sounds very different to the original. It's like It has a low pass filter (less treble).


    I don't know more ways to do DI Profiles.... and I always use the way 1 for this and results are good with the same cabinet+mic to compare. But its not different using FW 2.7.4.
    Really I think Im making some thing bad when I use the second way.


    Is there a way to difference tipical profile and DI profile in Rig Manager or in Kemper PA?


    What's the good way to make a merged profile?

  • to quote the manual:

    • Select the Studio Profile in Browse Mode. 
    • Hold the CABINET button for at least one second until it’s in focus. 
    • Press the COPY button on the Front Panel. 
    • Press EXIT and select the respective Direct Amp Profile. 
    • Hold CABINET again until it’s in focus. 
    • Press the PASTE button. 
    • "Merge Cabinet" will appear under soft button 2. Push it! 
    • You can undo/redo the merging by pressing “Merge Cabinet” again, and compare results. 
    • Press EXIT and store your new Profile. 
    • After storing it is not possible to undo the merging anymore!
  • I'm doing that like you and the manual describe but the results are the same, DI profile is totally different to the Studio Profile when I make a copy or merging cabinets respect using Lock button


    I suppose thats a FW3.0 issue or similar, also sometimes when I change of profile, Studio Profile appears like it doesn't have cabinet (sound) but cabinet button still activated, then I change of profile another time and everything it's ok

  • Ok I have new information about it. DonPetersen thanks for your help!


    When I do all things like you describe above, when I copy and paste to DI profile my cab... It sounds really similar when I push Merge Cabinet only. By the moment all it's OK.


    The problem is that when I change my preset another time and go back to the Merged Profile it sound like when you press or not the merge button. The sound is like if no merge button was activated. There's not the same I stored (with the merge activated). It's like I store the Merged Profile without Merge Cabinet activated.


    Im going to restart my KPA :(

  • Yes, of course!!!! ;)


    at first time you have it.... But when you return to the sound its not the same but yes.... The new profile has a cabinet(not previously)



    it's like it does not store the "merge cabinet" option in the new profile