Using the KPA strictly into a guitar cab with cabs off, is anyone finding the majority of the profiles included with the 3.0 launch particularly bass heavy/woofy?
3.0 DI profiles bass heavy?
- ToneJones
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Yes. Not all of them, but many of them.
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any of mine? work all fine here on real cab
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any of mine? work all fine here on real cab
Not yours and TAF's, all the other
Yours sound amazingly good! -
haha, that was my expierince with those other profiles too. not tested on real cab, but on studio monitors
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and now we go back to the starting point
Profile sound good on monitors but not on real cab - becouse amp setting depend on cabinet mic and mic pos used - IMO its not easy to create profile sounding good on monitors and real cab at the same time - but it is possible;) Right @Deadlightstudio 
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Im with SinMix here.. - This wont work on a sharing scale really, unless its pure by luck or you already have the correct cab for the correct amp.. otherwise profiles running into a cab will sound all over the place with many cabs & drivers..
I.E If I create a Profile here that runs and sounds perfect with the correct cab (naturally as that's the amp being profiled) - then you run it through a different cab worth a different driver.. then.. already its null and void..
Then the next questions is.. how can I make it sound like the real thing.. Lets run it through a FRFR speaker.. and we now have arrived at destination start!
etc etc...The Direct profile addition is a welcome one. but not so much for sharing, its more of a You make it for your own cab, own taste sort of thing.. actually that's what the profiler is meant to do right from the start
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On a more bass heavey cab like a Mesa i would dial in the amp different than i did, Hesu has tight lowend and bright mids. Created on Hesu sounds best on Hesu and so on but they also worked fine on my 1960AV
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If something is well made and balanced sounding, it's going to sound good everywhere, like Deadlightstudio's rigs. I have used them with my 1x12 cab and with 4x12 cabs and they are really good. Some EQ changes to compansate different speakers or cab sizes isn't a big deal. Overthinking kills
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it also belongs to guitar, pickups, playing style. Best way to provide DI profiles as commercial seller is to offer custom profiles. Dialed in to provided DI track, info about used real cab and wishes. Also these profiles will be more personal. Cant be cheap yes, its a job like reamping an Album
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If something is well made and balanced sounding, it's going to sound good everywhere, like Deadlightstudio's rigs. I have used them with my 1x12 cab and with 4x12 cabs and they are really good. Some EQ changes to compansate different speakers or cab sizes isn't a big deal. Overthinking kills
Well you just sort of answered your own question here..your complained that most were bass heavy.. but when changing cabs you needed to adjust the EQ.... and you can do this with anything no matter if the rig is bass heavy, or treble heavy.. EQ will be your friend regardless.. and there is no such thing as "perfectly balanced" Im sorry. Ive been a engineer for 30 years, and not once have I ever agreed with this. there is only guess work, on a sharing scale, you either get lucky or you don't... whats bass heavy for you. is not enough for the next person.. so on and so forth.
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It's become more realistic. Amps behabe differend on different cabs. I have a marshall cab which sounds horrorfying on some, but might tame hights other amps.
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Well you just sort of answered your own question here..your complained that most were bass heavy.. but when changing cabs you needed to adjust the EQ.... and you can do this with anything no matter if the rig is bass heavy, or treble heavy.. EQ will be your friend regardless.. and there is no such thing as "perfectly balanced" Im sorry. Ive been a engineer for 30 years, and not once have I ever agreed with this. there is only guess work, on a sharing scale, you either get lucky or you don't... whats bass heavy for you. is not enough for the next person.. so on and so forth.I never complained and i never asked a question. The so called bass heavy rigs sound bass heavy in my 1x12 cab and even more in an 4x12 cab. The EQ change that i need to make with Deadlightstudio's rigs and yours when coming to an 4x12 from a 1x12 is not that big, that's why i named them more (not perfectly) balanced. And you can't ignore that beside Deadlightstudio's rigs and yours, the other rigs feel bass heavy, it's not only my opinion. The first thing that a friend of mine and kemper owner told me when he tested the rigs was that bass heavyness. And he uses a compeletely different cab and speaker from mine. Anyway, this isn't a big deal for me, there going to be a lot of rigs created with the new way from now on so we will have a lot of choices depending on what we like
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maybe there is somthing wrong with some of the rigs, not all...5153 mbritt for example is really pretty strange (on monitors, have to check on real cab..)
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I never complained and i never asked a question. The so called bass heavy rigs sound bass heavy in my 1x12 cab and even more in an 4x12 cab. The EQ change that i need to make with Deadlightstudio's rigs and yours when coming to an 4x12 from a 1x12 is not that big, that's why i named them more (not perfectly) balanced. And you can't ignore that beside Deadlightstudio's rigs and yours, the other rigs feel bass heavy, it's not only my opinion. The first thing that a friend of mine and kemper owner told me when he tested the rigs was that bass heavyness. And he uses a compeletely different cab and speaker from mine. Anyway, this isn't a big deal for me, there going to be a lot of rigs created with the new way from now on so we will have a lot of choices depending on what we like
Yup I get what your saying, really, and Im not trying to create an argument, but was simply trying to enforce that with Direct Profiles, your taming the profile to work with that speaker in mind (after all your going with accuracy) - or, in other words, you can only make things sound as good as the equipment your running it from... - so with that in mind, how that will translate to any other cab is complete guess. - with Studio Profiles, its a similar case but not so extreme as your point of reference is "reference" monitors. - I think the new addition to Ver3.0 is great. but I feel the EQ knobs will need to be heavily used more so than the studio profiles. - Naturally, there is a bigger difference between cabs & speakers, than there is Reference monitors.. (as they are designed to be flat(ish)) and speakers & cabs are not..
And yes I apologize, I got you mixed up with the OP, my bad
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maybe there is somthing wrong with some of the rigs, not all...5153 mbritt for example is really pretty strange (on monitors, have to check on real cab..)
These are really bass heavy and dull sounding, i tested them with my 1x12 cab, imagine how they sound with a 4x12.
Yup I get what your saying, really, and Im not trying to create an argument, but was simply trying to enforce that with Direct Profiles, your taming the profile to work with that speaker in mind (after all your going with accuracy) - or, in other words, you can only make things sound as good as the equipment your running it from... - so with that in mind, how that will translate to any other cab is complete guess. - with Studio Profiles, its a similar case but not so extreme as your point of reference is "reference" monitors. - I think the new addition to Ver3.0 is great. but I feel the EQ knobs will need to be heavily used more so than the studio profiles. - Naturally, there is a bigger difference between cabs & speakers, than there is Reference monitors.. (as they are designed to be flat(ish)) and speakers & cabs are not..
And yes I apologize, I got you mixed up with the OP, my bad
I totally agree
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I tested them with a 1x12 cab loaded with an v30.
