Recorded Kempertracks sounding bad - help!

Have you tried just recording one side (mono, I mean)?

why are you using one TRS and one TS cable? The TS outs of the Profiler deliver an unbalanced signal.
I would suggest you use two good quality TS cables to connect the Profilers main outs to the interface.

Sounds like the phase is pretty messed up, it might be the cabling (probably phase out caused by mixing unbalanced and balanced) or some faulty output jack on the kemper. Have you checked with different cables?

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So.. i tried it like i said.

Mainout set to Mono. Kemper is now connected to the interface via a TS Cable (left Kemper mainout)

It sounds different, since i am tweaking since 3 days i cant even say if its okay now or not. So i made u a audiofile again, maybe you can say if its better now!?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tr2p…p/Kempertest%202.wav?dl=0

.Thanks guys for helping!

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That's sounding amazing already! Is it a factory preset?

I too think this is a good tone you got there, would be nice to hear it in a mix..

I'm not sure the sound is hugely different from clip 1 to clip 2. The second is a key up and louder, so that influences the opinion. The main difference for me is you play the second time with much better tuning. These kind of profiles will always sound a little thin on their own and then improve a lot in the mix when bass and drums are added.

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PS. Shouldn't sound the non recorded / livemonitored sound like this too, when its the cable?

In my experience the cause for this kind or problems almost always has to do with a loud signal being clipped somwhere in the signal chain. If the monitored sound is good then levels are good up to that point. If the monitor sound comes direct from your profiler, then the cause could be either cables or clipping in the 2i4. If you take monitor sound from the 2i4, then clipping has to occur later, which probably would mean in the recording software. Clipping in the audio-interface and/or in a DAW should light up some indicators.

Does the 2i4 auto-sense TS vs TRS? If it does it could be expecting a much weaker TS-signal, like from a directly connected guitar, as the connected KPA's output is TS while the KPA deliver line-level. I've seen autosensing interfaces make such mistakes before and if you can't override and lock the input to accept line level you are left with lowering the KPA output until you reach a level the audio-interface can handle. The same thing happens with some audio-interfaces if you use XLR and the audio-interface is designed to assume that XLR is synonymous with a mic-level signal. The profiler should have had switches for the main output to force the signal to line-level or mic/instrument-level depending on what equipment you connect to. It is possible to work around the problem by adjusting the output level, but I think physical switches would have eliminated much of the confusion.

Quote from heldal

In my experience the cause for this kind or problems almost always has to do with a loud signal being clipped somwhere in the signal chain. If the monitored sound is good then levels are good up to that point. If the monitor sound comes direct from your profiler, then the cause could be either cables or clipping in the 2i4. If you take monitor sound from the 2i4, then clipping has to occur later, which probably would mean in the recording software. Clipping in the audio-interface and/or in a DAW should light up some indicators.
Does the 2i4 auto-sense TS vs TRS? If it does it could be expecting a much weaker TS-signal, like from a directly connected guitar, as the connected KPA's output is TS while the KPA deliver line-level. I've seen autosensing interfaces make such mistakes before and if you can't override and lock the input to accept line level you are left with lowering the KPA output until you reach a level the audio-interface can handle. The same thing happens with some audio-interfaces if you use XLR and the audio-interface is designed to assume that XLR is synonymous with a mic-level signal. The profiler should have had switches for the main output to force the signal to line-level or mic/instrument-level depending on what equipment you connect to. It is possible to work around the problem by adjusting the output level, but I think physical switches would have eliminated much of the confusion.

I've noticed this, and was wondering if the S/N ratio changes when you lower the Output signal of the Kemper, or is the S/N ratio constant no matter how low you set the Output level? Obviously I'm not gonna set the Output level of the Kemper extremely low, since that would introduce noise from the preamps if they are being pushed farther than they should. I simply would like to understand what Output level would yield the best S/N ratio when recording the Kemper into a preamp/audio interface.

Thanks!

So... it was clipping in Cubase?

Gotcha mate. Sometimes the relief felt after the issue's disappearance is reward enough.

I only asked so those reading the thread won't feel left hanging too much, but as I suggested, perhaps our knowing you're happy will be our little reward.