Hello guys,
I take the opportunity from the POST from BRUNO "Well.. Try this test" that I report below to make futher investigation test.
I believe that such discover is very important to clearly have a specific title thread:
- I take 4 different clean Amplifier modeled by the Kemper:
HIWATT DR 103 1972;
ALEMBIC F2B 1974;
Fender Hot Road Deluxe (tube based) profiled by me;
Fender Deluxe85 (transistor based) profiled by me
- Then tweak the parameters all the same (GAIN 0, all the others 0 except Tube Shape 3.3
- Then LOCK EQ OFF, LOCK the Input, LOCK the CABINET OFF and switch off all the others stomp, if present
- Finally compare the same EMaj Chord LOOP
Here you have the result in WAV:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/568398…enHotRoad-FenDeluxe85.wav
So, the conclusion, is that in the modeling of CLEAN amplifiers they differ only for the CAB emulation.
But this also means that the modeling, while being very faithful as a whole, absolutely it is not in the subdivision between preamp and power amp. It is absolutely not credible that the Fender Deluxe 85 amp has the same sound of a tube amp Fender Deluxe Hot Road or the same of the amp Hiwatt DR103 !!
Finally, I believe that such behaviour should be mentioned and explaied in some way in the instrucion and guide for the KPA from the Kemper team...
Leave your comments, as I want to know other opinion about that, thank you very much!
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BRUNO
Saturday, April 7th 2012, 6:34pm
Well.. Try this test
Take 3 or 4 of your fav clean sounds..make a copy of them with gain on zero ,clean sense,definition and all Eq on 5 ,no effects.Same cab for all... well to sum it up same exact setting for all...difference should come from the amp profiled ..what do you hear ?
Here I have 3 times the same exact tone with a Vibrolux,Decatone and CAE ..so when gain is on zero the tone will come from the cab and settings..amp profiled doesn't really matter ?
Quoted from "Vincent88"
So you are saying that these 3 profiles sound the same with the stock gain setting?
If you set them the same way with EQ and other parameters yes..
There's a difference when it is not a clean sound with gain on zero anyway ..not a huge one but it's there..so yes the cab contains a lot of the amp actually which is good to know when you want to mix.
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