Medium Gain Rock tone

Hey
Ive been gigging live with my Kemper for a number of weeks now and it has taken me some time to be happy with the sounds.
I am absolutely loving the kemper and it has eliminated my boogie rack (2:90, Triaxis and GMajor2) now that Im pairing it with a Yamaha DXR

I generally use 4 core tones a night and various effects in each patch

Sounds are -

Clean
Medium Gain Crunch
Higher Gain Crunch
Lead Tone

So far I am happy with my Clean and now my Lead tone but I am still at a loss about what to use for my two rhythm patches

Clean is a Peavey Classic 50, Lead is a Boogie Mark 5.

Ive tried the Mark 5 for Rhythm sounds and it just doesn't cut it for me for some reason.

Can anyone give me recommendations for medium to higher gain rock tones. Not interested in Metal tones etc

Cheers,
Don

Quote from and44

well guitars are mid-rangey, maybe you can still use your fav rigs, just push the mids a small amount. will help it be "bigger" in the mix and cut through.
But not too much else it will sound harsh to the ears..
IMO, any rig will get you there, you just need to tweek it till it is.

Thanks Andy. My problem is just not being happy with the general sound of my Rhythm patches. I love your rigs by the way!

Quote from guitarnet70

If they sound muffled try lowering a bit the gain and raising a notch volume and presence.

They aren't muddy. Just the ones so far I have tried sound a little too processed.

What medium gain tones are people out there using?

Quote from paults

Do you use the guitar volume knob to turn down for rhythm sounds, or is always on 10?

If you use your volume knob, these have a wide range from a little gain, to a lead tone.

These are both a 50 watt Marshall Jubilee, wih an open back GK-100 1-12 cab:

Jubilee with SM57 and C3000

Jubilee with SM57

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I use my volume control a lot to vary my tone/gain. Ill give these a shot tomorrow. Thanks very much.

Quote from michaelmellner

hi mrguitardon.
I gig all the times with and44 plexis: the sound I get is a mix between vai alien love secrets and early van halen. I don't think I can have a better tone. besides I had the exact system you had: 290, triaxis and the Gforce, not the gmajor. so I know what you mean.

the plexi I use was conceived to be a low distortion one. I tried to cranck it and I got this marvelous sound. I don't remember the exact name of the rig since I change it to my needs but I will locate it and let you know

Michael thanks for your reply. Let me know if you find the original patch names so I can look through mine and try it.

You are one of the reasons I bought the Kemper after seeing your youtube tour with the Kemper. Amazing playing and fantastic sound.

Quote from michaelmellner

well.......glad I could be of help in the choice............i guarantee you you will never regret it!!

let me take a look at the profile, as soon as i got into my studio............

Thanks for that. Let me know if you find it. Cheers.

Update:
Tried adding a good chunk of mids and it helped things alot. Still not 100% happy with my rhythm sound but Im getting there.

Quote from DonPetersen

factory rig: Converter Crunch - dialing down the gain a bit, a great, cutting, no-nonsense rhythm tone

rig exchange: Marshall Golub Crunc (sic)

and maybe try this mid boost: Mid Boost for fatter Sounds

Will give this a try. Cheers!