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Quote from Wheresthedug

I’m sure there will be plenty shortly when he creates some new packs to sell.

Probably pissed off because he didn’t note the original settings of his profiled amps

To be fair Christoph is doing some backflips of late most notably usb recording, and tablet Android support something he initially wouldn’t do because he assumed most of crowd would already own an interface and Android across so many devices was just a PIA. So you never know an update to the modulation effects would have to be in the plan one would think.

Quote from goldensheaf

Not me. I treid it on 2 or my pfofiles a mad em worse.

So these are profiles of your own amps right?

What are the amps?, what modeled tone stacks did you use? Did you use existing profiles or redo them using Kemper recommendations, did you note the profiles eq and gain and use it for the matching?

Lots of questions sorry but seriously interested.

Michael Britt, Guidorist and Rigbusters have released liquid profile rig packs available now on the download page.

I figure if it’s possible to use the desktop RM and usb record at the same time then the iPad is quite doable as well.

Or try it yourself

Quote from benifin

Yeah ... but they were very "all over the place" and there was no points of reference.

If L.P is all C.K says it it ... and I'm very inclined to believe him .... we need to see someone doing a Liquid Profile fully from scratch ground up using one of the 40 "channels" with their same amp .... and then comparing, say, 10 or so wildly different settings on the real amp to the same wildly different settings in the profile .... only then will we be able to assess if it is what it is actually claiming to be.

All the best,

Ben

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Quote from missionman

I would simply say that it's honestly not as difficult and daunting as it first appears. I'm an older user (63) and I think it's completely logically set out; there's a signal path set out right in front of your eyes in the buttons on the unit, to the right of the master volume - stomps, then amp/cab, and finally mods/delays etc. after the amp/cab.
Personally I use Rig Manager (RM) a lot to set up Performances and import rigs. As others have said, there are lots of videos online to help out.
I would say:

1. Remember there's a difference between Browser and Performance mode - the former is to store profiles or audition them, and the latter is there to set up banks of Performance patches for playing live, with your chosen selection of effects etc.

2. By all means buy or collect profile packs, but don't be tempted to import them all into the unit itself. You can import and audition them easily within RM. Once imported, back up RM regularly. It takes seconds.

3. Within Performance mode, get to understand morphing. It's a great feature.

4. Again within Performance mode, there are 125 fixed slots available on the unit itself (unlimited within RM, where you can set up folders). Most of these will be labelled 'New Performance' - you change the name once you've set it up. There are a set of example ones installed, called things like 'Example: Song A'. I wouldn't touch those.

5, Each Performance will hold 5 rigs (1-5 on the bottom row of your Stage), each with its own selection of stomps/effects etc (buttons above). You can copy rigs to these slots. The Up/Down arrows navigate between Perfs.

[Many people set up one Perf. per song. Personally, I set up one main one based on different gain stages of one specific amp, from clean to lead, with appropriate rig volume changes; then have a similar separate one for E flat, one for drop D, one for a very specific song (requiring completely different rigs), one with an acoustic patch on it, one completely double-tracked.]
6. Assigning effects to the buttons on the top row of each rig is dead easy. Myself, I select and set up the effect using RM, as it's visually easier, but of course you can do it on the unit itself, it just takes longer (for me). Then once it's there, press the coloured soft effect button on the Stage that you've selected for the effect, and the metal stomp button simultaneously, and it's assigned.

7. Always remember to Save when you've made a change, and you're happy with it.

8. Once you're familiar with those basics, look at morphing, and more obscure things like Clean Sens/Distortion Sens, Definition, Clarity etc, how to set up expression pedals, and so on. Also how to assign outputs (e.g. Main Output - Mono or stereo? and Main Out volume; Monitor outputs)

P.S. Despite what it says on my user status, I'm not a Beginner..!

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That’s a really good summary missioman

Welcome, yeah those mediocre effects days are well behind us and that’s down to Kempers continued development that shows no signs of slowing.

Quote from aspiemattie

Indeed. However, I’m using a MacBook, and there isn’t a “Right Click” option on my trackpad.

I guess I’m a MacBook dummy, LOL

Come on grass hopper, googling right click on Mac trackpad takes 10 sec.😁

Quote from goldensheaf

Do you want his full pack? You can have mine

No thanks, haven’t invested heavily in profiles and yet the ones I have should last out my life as I see it, sorry the experience has not been the same for you.

Quote from alligatorlizard

In case any of this is aimed at my reply above, you wouldn't believe how deeply I've dived into all the parameters on the Kemper... And what I've concluded (as have many others btw) is that essentially there's only so much you can do if the profile is not already pretty much in the ballpark tonally - yes, you can EQ, pre and post amp, till it sounds balanced, but if it was way off in the first place, it's not going to sound much like a real amp anymore once you've applied more than a certain amount of EQ. What the Kemper's various parameters are good for is refining an already good-sounding profile into a really perfect one. On the profiles I use a lot, I'll adjust (if necessary) every single parameter available (starting with Definition) until I find the sweet spots, I use studio EQ before the amp stack to optimise the signal going in (including level), broad stokes with the amp stack EQ, then much more detailed final EQ (and filters) in the DAW.

And all this is very different to a modeler - fundamentally, in a modeller, you can set the amps tone controls in a way that simulates how a real amp would react (depending on how good the modeler is of course), so a basic amp tone is very easy to dial up as long as you've got half-decent ears. With Kemper profiles, you're always working with a tone someone else has dialed in to suit their gtr/pickups/tastes. If you're lucky, you'll find some where their settings are very close to what you'd ideally dial in on the same amp. Then, the Kemper can sound glorious, and all the parameters you mention and more can help refine it further to you needs, and subtle EQ works very well for idealising the tone. But finding these golden profiles is the tricky bit, and they'll be different ones for different people, so recommendations and audio demos only go so far.

Liquid profiling might improve things. An online (or part of rig manager) marketplace where you can actually try the profiles before buying would at least cut down the cost if not the time spent searching. Also, if profiling companies included more tonal variations (e.g. per gain range captured), that would make profile-buying a lot less risky.

Of course all this pertains to using the Kemper with 3rd party profiles (which I believe the majority of users do) - I imagine if you make your own profiles you would have none of these issues!

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Agreed, marketplace and liquid profiles could improve matters but as an experienced player I assume your aware of the basic tonalities of amps and how the cabinet/IR/mic and it’s placement are 90% of the equation.

This is exactly why the better commercial profiles will offer so many variations on a single amp for a starting point.

This of course can be done on the Axe which is a great device just a different and I honestly don’t see it as better, just different.

Quote from alligatorlizard

In case any of this is aimed at my reply above, you wouldn't believe how deeply I've dived into all the parameters on the Kemper... And what I've concluded (as have many others btw) is that essentially there's only so much you can do if the profile is not already pretty much in the ballpark tonally - yes, you can EQ, pre and post amp, till it sounds balanced, but if it was way off in the first place, it's not going to sound much like a real amp anymore once you've applied more than a certain amount of EQ. What the Kemper's various parameters are good for is refining an already good-sounding profile into a really perfect one. On the profiles I use a lot, I'll adjust (if necessary) every single parameter available (starting with Definition) until I find the sweet spots, I use studio EQ before the amp stack to optimise the signal going in (including level), broad stokes with the amp stack EQ, then much more detailed final EQ (and filters) in the DAW.

And all this is very different to a modeler - fundamentally, in a modeller, you can set the amps tone controls in a way that simulates how a real amp would react (depending on how good the modeler is of course), so a basic amp tone is very easy to dial up as long as you've got half-decent ears. With Kemper profiles, you're always working with a tone someone else has dialed in to suit their gtr/pickups/tastes. If you're lucky, you'll find some where their settings are very close to what you'd ideally dial in on the same amp. Then, the Kemper can sound glorious, and all the parameters you mention and more can help refine it further to you needs, and subtle EQ works very well for idealising the tone. But finding these golden profiles is the tricky bit, and they'll be different ones for different people, so recommendations and audio demos only go so far.

Liquid profiling might improve things. An online (or part of rig manager) marketplace where you can actually try the profiles before buying would at least cut down the cost if not the time spent searching. Also, if profiling companies included more tonal variations (e.g. per gain range captured), that would make profile-buying a lot less risky.

Of course all this pertains to using the Kemper with 3rd party profiles (which I believe the majority of users do) - I imagine if you make your own profiles you would have none of these issues!

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Quote from goldensheaf

I was never happy an bought some paid profiles, was still not happy. I do not use one single paid profile only my own. There has not been one profile live that feels right an real to me they all have this 2d cardboard thing goin on. I really dont know how they get away with it. Esp moneyjunkie. i think people have forgoten what a real amp in a room sounds like. Yes, everyone should buy a kemper DI an make there own. Definition, an cab pre tab are my favs at mo.

I don’t want to be argumentative, but I’m a little tired of people putting shit on ToneJunkie.

Yes the guy runs a business that feeds his family, he has a somewhat polarising effect that puts some off, but -

You tell me who is more experienced diving in to a large assortment of amps and profiling them.

His commitment to the Kemper community is second to none, loads of free stuff and loads of how to videos yet keyboard warriors spit in his face.

Just a day or two ago he announced he was stepping from other devices to concentrate on Kemper because he still feels it’s the best.

If his profiles don’t suit that’s fine but I doubt his profiles are the problem.

I have rarely used a stock paid or free profile stock in 11 years.

Dive in deeper and tune the profile to your taste, guitar and ears, there is heaps to explore.

It will be no different to the Axe.

Cab Lo and hi shift, character.

Definition (a forum favourite)

Amp compression

Clarity

EQ (obvious)

Tube bias, pick, tube shape.

If you haven’t explored these and more you are likely to be disappointed.

Know your tools.

It’s a professional tool, it does have its own paradigms, but no more then any other comparable unit, it actually took me years to get comfortable but then I am a bit slow .

+ 100000.

Nice production values and mix well done.

So we will need photos of the new studio space, nice track

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