That's a great, great part of the Kemper Profiler = the Kemper team constantly improving and updating the unit ( firmware, manager, packs ) !!!
... don't see a lot of companies doing this !
SO a great THANKS to this Kemper philosophy 
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" And the product as it is, is apparently attractive enough to please their customers.The KPA would be more attractive even, "
interesting analysis and may be a place for third party companies ... for our pleasure
Hb
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This idea is really good coz, I remember a time ( a long time ago ... before the Kemper
) that a lot of guitar players don't use boutique amps BUT a good clean amp ( let say a Fender ... ) and a lot of stomp boxes in front of it .Add to this that now, there is a real market of "boutique" stomp boxes ( Ethos, Zendrive, DUmkudo, OCD, Klon, ... ... ) that it could be very efficient to have this possibility on the Kemper.
May be, it's not impossible ??? = just have to know HOW the stomp boxes are created actually on the Kemper, then developp the accurate algorythm to recreat it starting from an external stomp box = you send the necessary "noise, sounds, ... " to this box, as when you profile, and get directly the output from this box instead of the mic ... and let the algorythm do the job.
The kemper is not powerfull enough to perform 2 profiles at once BUT it can use SEVERAL stomp boxes with a profile : so if the "profile" or "capture" of YOUR stomp box is in the correct format (thanks to an algorythm) : why not ?
... I'll be ready to pay (a correct amount) to add a such upgrade to my Kemper
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[All the reasons to use or own a Profiler]excellent job to resume it ! Thanks
Even if I'm a Tubes Geek and think that the Kemper is closed at 90% to tubes amps ( sorry Don ...
) = these are ENOUGH reasons to absolutely own a Kemper profiler.and as you mention, not easy, money wise, to own all the great amps ... that you can get profiles -most of the time for free or for cheap (thanks Andy, Armin, ...
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We live at a very exciting periodI even find a plus that can offer you the Kemper = creating not existing amps !!!
I mean = you take a profile of one appreciate amp and tweak a lot the amp/cab/eq parameters to YOUR direction then play with the different cabs and you get a "personnal amp", ready for your own use !!!
... I'm sure that, at the end of this thread, we will still find new reasons to love our Kemper
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pour Hollowbuddy : oui il y a une fonction preset pour les cabs ( et la section amp aussi je crois) , c'est excellent pour switcher entre +sieurs presets d'un même rig. En pratique je pense que c'est plus simple d'avoir des rigs séparés avec ces mêmes presets, surtout pour le live, ou gérer ça avec le mode perform.
oui, tout à fait et je suis bien d'accord avec toi pour les rigs séparés ! (il faudra que j'approfondisse l'usage du mode perform d'ailleurs ... : je reviendrai probablement vers toi
)Merci encore
Hb
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je reviens à la charge car je viens de remarquer un truc :
. ne les a-t-on pas déjà quand on sélectionne les cabs avec l'option "from rigs" ???
. en fait, en les sauvegardant, on les a ensuite dans la sélection "local presets" ( ce qui peut être cool pour conserver le cab d'un rig qu'on supprime )
Bon, c'est pas trop clair ... mais comme maintenant, je sais ( merci ! ) sauvegarder ceux qui m'intéresse dans les local presets ...
Hb
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exactement ! tu imagines le nombre de Cab de folie à tester hein !!!
Perso j'en ai 4/5 que j'utilise tout le temps.
bah, vraiment, merci !!! tu m'ouvres de sacrées perspectivesHb
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Salut les gars, pense aussi à utiliser les CAB d'autres rigs dont tu apprécies le son ( en les sauvant : bouton CAB / bouton store je crois, puis browse comme indiqué + haut)
là, waraba, tu soulèves un point que j'ai peut-être complétement raté !!! = tu veux dire que quand on profile un ampli (-ou que l'on charge un rig-), le cab n'est pas systématiquement inclus dans la liste des cabs disponibles ?
Dans ce cas, effectivement c'est délirant le nombre de cabs que l'on pourrait ajouter !? Dans ce cas il s'agirait de passer en mode édit du cab puis de faire store et "cab only" ?
Hb
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Great story HB !!
The IIC+ is the perfect world between heavy and creamy. The graphic eq brings a lot to the heavy side, but we can get also what you loved in the IIB...
I use it more for the heavy side but it is a real swiss knife
Dge
... you give me even more GAS ...Thanks for the answer
Hb
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To be honest, neither I'm not used to write in forums, nor to speak in english (I do it really bad, I know),
... same here !!! so don't be affraid, this forum and the users are really cool and they will provide you lot of advices, infos and ... funWelcome and enjoy !
Hb
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dejemass, this Mark 2C+ is just ... gorgeous !!! and, honestly, even having the Kemper, I gas for a such one
... If I go one day to Reims be prepared to have someone ringing at your door
I was probably the THIRD in the 80' to have a Mark IIB in France ( just after the studio guitar player Claude Engel ) : that was a real shock for me !
I was lucky enough ( during a training course in California ) to go to Petaluma and meet Randall Smith ( and a technician = I think it was mike bendinelli !? ) and schematics in hand we have talked about some mods ( removing of the Fetron circuitry and improve for a 12AX7, tubes = Randall confirms that my previous Tubes -Philips 6L6 STR 415- were probably the best 6L6 ever - it was the reason of my visit = my Mark IIB didn't sound the same after a Tubes change ... )
= great moment !!! ... great memories ...
BUT it seems that, with the mark II C+, Mesa has gone more in the "metal" territory ? I had after my mark IIB ( that, Dumb I was, I sold ... ) a Mark III and the sounds seem more agressive for me and less "singing" ?! Is that the reason that, at this time, some of the Mark IIB users -for its singing sounds and sustain- has gone to Dumble ? ( Larry Carlton, ... ) ???
Anyway now I have the KEMPER ... AND can enjoy of the profiles of ALL the mark series
( and YES I appreciate your profiles !!! )... but YES, even if it is not logical, owning a KEMPER, I still gas for a Mark II C+ ... ...
Congrats for this monster !
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lot of taste in this collection ! Congrats
I especially love this "red" Tom Anderson and this "natural" LP !Hb
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That's for the PRS ... the Strat ( 91 Ri62 Ocean turquoise, 91 Ri65 Relic Daphne blue and 96 Custom build Art Esparza) the Nashville Tele and The "Sunburst" Hamer -Black- are missing.
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and ... the Kemper ( and Ri65 Relic + 80' Fender Concert II)
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Go on with the discussion, guys.
This actually helps to spread the truth about the profiler.
I'm guilty myself to have used the word 'snapshot' before I was a profiler user.
Boy I was wrong!
Silly me!... not only, I'll go on but NO these are not 'snapshot'.
The fact that LIKE with a real amp, I've to change some parameters from one guitar to another AND that I have to do the SAME with the Kemper DEMONSTRATE that the Kemper reacts LIKE a real amp !
So, After that, as I prepar my pedalboard before a gig : let say : Channel 1 Clean + reverb, Channel 2 Crunch + an OD, ... ... : I do the SAME with the Kemper ... by using different profiles !
And as Maurizio70 adds, why not use directly a real profile ( you create it ONE time forever, so no big deal ) ( ... and BTW I specially appreciate YOUR profiles Maurizio70 ! Thanks to share)
Not to be more clever, but it seems logical for me and real close to the use of a real amp ?
Do I'm wrong ?
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the Definition parameter does wonders in adjusting a profile quickly to radically different sounding pickups. also, our EQ is quite powerful, so you might have to make less adjustments then you think.
and if your amp features eq before the distortion stages, make sure to switch our EQ to 'pre'people who use this 'argument' (see quote in original post) always seem to haven an agenda, either they just don't want to like the product, or would like to appear clever, but fail to see that their statement is:
a) an exaggeration, to the point of distorting the facts
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b) in it's true sense one of the reasons so many guitar players love the Profiler: it reacts completely natural to you pickups and brings out the voice of your guitarnot talking about the OP who came here asking a question in a civil manner, but about the ones that quite possibly never played the Profiler, yet propagate this myth or better this misinterpretation of the facts.
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It looks like, with my poor English language, I don't explain correctly my point :OF COURSE, with ALL the tweaking possibilities of the Kemper, you will be able to adjust -if necessary- a profile for a different guitar/pickups = but AGAIN , IMAO, I feel easier to have another profile ready to use ... that's all !
... we have room for more than 1000 profiles, so it doesn't seem a nightmare to have two profiles for one amp ...
And, as I have ended my previous post with a question mark, thanks for your own point of view that I understand .
I really love my Kemper and don't want to "look clever", just wish to use it the way it feels easier for me
... and YES it comes close to the "Real Tube Amp" Hb
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It's the same as with real tube amp's - when you switch guitars - you either get another sound or have to adjust your amps controlls (change gain or tone stack setting).
The good news:
The KPA has a gain knob and tone stack knobs - and you can tweak your profile sound by this or by adding additional EQ effects before/after the amp.I feel this is the answer
... But I feel a little bit different concerning the "goods news" :
. when you switch guitar and try to adjust the Kemper for this new guitar/kind of pickup ... it didn't work as easy, as well, than with a "real Tube amp" (imao)
. most of the time you have better to : - adjust your (real) amp for the expected sound for THIS guitar/pickup and create a different profile.
Let say that I use my PRS HB on my Fuchs ODS then my strat : -> easy to tweak my Fuchs ... not really perfect with tweaking the Kemper
With two different profiles : really much better !!!
What do you think ???
Hb
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I need to add that I really appreciate Paco profiles too !
Even if I've a Fuchs ODS 30 = when I use the Kemper ... I really often use Paco profiles !
I try to make my own profiles BUT didn't succeed
( small room, no way to listen to mic position results before profiling, ... )So Paco really succeed to make some really interesting ones !
I won't give up coz my ODS30 -with his Mesa-boogie old Eminence speaker and philips 6L6 STR415- is a bit special ( probably a little more "bright" and agressive = think more of Robben Ford instead of Larry Carlton
)May be , one day, I'll succeed
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Hb
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But, I fear this would be a major website effort.
... yes, and honestly -no offense here- I better like that Kemper concentrate their work on updates for firmware and rig manager
Hb
