Ducking Parameter for Delay

I've noticed this too. I'm glad you brought it up, I haven't been able to understand the negative values either

Haven't noticed this particular issue. And I rarely use ducking. I did notice a while back that all the ducking I'll ever need was present from 0.1 to 0.2. So something did at least appear fishy to me earlier.

If I'm using delay there's usually some ducking applied to keep the main signal more distinct, but I also have never explored the dark side of ducking. It would be cool to hear what it was intended for.

.1 to .2 is all I tend to use. Just enough to give the original note some room.

Never really messed with negative settings. Will have to investigate.

Positive values can let soft playing of things like chords have delay but when you dig into the strings for a solo it gets drier and more in your face.

It has already been mentioned that Ducking > 0 makes the dry sound more prominent and leaves the silent passages filled with the effect. And yes, normally you play at +0.3 max. But why not offering a wider scale?

Ducking < 0 ducks the effect while you don't play. This might be the challenge in combination with delay effects: You play a note and a second later, when the delay arrives, you don't play anymore and consequently duck the delay. So to hear any delay effect your signal needs to constantly stay above the threshold. This is how this bi-polar parameter works across the board. If there is a practical application for this in a delay effect ... I don't know.

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It has already been mentioned that Ducking > 0 makes the dry sound more prominent and leaves the silent passages filled with the effect. And yes, normally you play at +0.3 max. But why not offering a wider scale?

Ducking < 0 ducks the effect while you don't play. This might be the challenge in combination with delay effects: You play a note and a second later, when the delay arrives, you don't play anymore and consequently duck the delay. So to hear any delay effect your signal needs to constantly stay above the threshold. This is how this bi-polar parameter works across the board. If there is a practical application for this in a delay effect ... I don't know.

Thanks for the answer. Would like a bit more resolution in the usable range. That's all.

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If there is a practical application for this in a delay effect ... I don't know.

*chuckle*

I'm sure one of us will figure something cool out.

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Thanks for the answer. Would like a bit more resolution in the usable range. That's all.

Have you tested it recently? The progression of that parameter had been improved in OS 8.1 - without changing former sounds.

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*chuckle*

I'm sure one of us will figure something cool out.

I'll file that with every "ring modulator" effect I've tried. 😀

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Have you tested it recently? The progression of that parameter had been improved in OS 8.1 - without changing former sounds.

Actually no I haven't. But will for sure. Thanks B.

I think I need an illustrated drawing on what ducking is.

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I think I need an illustrated drawing on what ducking is.

It's pretty simple. A positive value means the delay/reverb won't activate until you stop playing. The delay 'ducks' out of the way and allows the original note room to sound.

Negative means the delay will function while you play, but shuts off (almost like a gate, but only for the effect) when you stop.

I use a lot the ducking on Delay, Trem and Rotary for Solo parts, so I get the guitar more upfront while keeping the same feel of the Song. I normally just morph up the Parameter (together with a light boost on volume or gain/mids

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It's pretty simple. A positive value means the delay/reverb won't activate until you stop playing. The delay 'ducks' out of the way and allows the original note room to sound.

Negative means the delay will function while you play, but shuts off (almost like a gate, but only for the effect) when you stop.

So ducking setting at 0 means the delay functions while you play "and" does not shut off --- which will have delay tails (repeats) go right into the next note if you have moderate feedback setting?? I've never used ducking before and have used the feedback to set the number of repeats. I'm wondering when you would use ducking in rock and metal.

Everywhere.

One of the the (legendary) TC 2290 delay’s claims to fame is its ducking function.

The 2290 can be found in tons of Rock and Metal.