New firmware released - 2.4.1 beta / 2.4.2 beta

And theres ANOTHER reason why I am only installing full release version of the OS after several weeks (Still on 3.2.2)

Be careful guys, guitars can sound different from day to day depending on the weather and humidity changes...and so can tube amps/speakers.

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for the truth sake, I didn't play with new cab parameters , maybe there is a problem
Very similar thing happened when the new Green Scream was introduced, I had to adjust all rigs with green scream to match the sound, where new sound was better than previous.

Nobody is talking about the sound because it shouldn't have changed.
If you have a modified cab (change in the shift params) then obviously, there should be an audible difference and it's not very fair to blame Kemper for it.
If everything is set flat, then we may have a problem. Can you record it and post here?

Moon phases have a great impact too , Lance

You're right , changes in sound are more notable when playing through tube amp/Mesa cab as a monitor , than through QSC's as a main out , in my case.

No problem with me, I will accommodate it and find my way, we all grow with KPA during a time , and those free of charges updates .

Read carefully again please , no body blame KPA , especially myself.
I even didn't blame KPA when I said (as one of the first to note that) about 2.4.1 bass problem .
I said , not a big deal, will be fixed.
I am saying it again.
This is not Axe like forum , all members here have right to its own opinion- freely expressed , even if opinions are wrong .

This is one of things, apart from the better sound, which attracted lots of Axe guys to switch of on KPA side.

I do not need to record, as I did not need to record bass bug problem in 2.4.0 , I still have good ears , hope everybody have it as well.

But , obviously, this is about my age , I pay more attention to the sound than to FX, editors , boot times,compatibility with iPhone, microwaves etc ...

Quote from Quitty

Nobody is talking about the sound because it shouldn't have changed.
If you have a modified cab (change in the shift params) then obviously, there should be an audible difference and it's not very fair to blame Kemper for it.
If everything is set flat, then we may have a problem. Can you record it and post here?

Quote from Rescator

No body talking about the sound .
Personally I don't give a shit about boot time , it took me much longer to warm up my amps properly .

2.4.1 sound is completely different than 2.4.0 and 2.3 release.

I am going back to 2.3 release, since something is really wrong with 2.4 , I do not want to waste my time, waiting for 2.4 sound to be fixed.


In 2.4.0 too much bass, now in 2.4.1 I have to add bass and to be worse it lacking mids, since there is no that natural , brown meat sound , especially in vintage distorted rigs.

Try TAF Fargan in 2.3 versus 2.4.0 and 2.4.1 and you will know what I am talking about .
Fargan have that unmistakable bass distortion (which can come from heavy broken speakers as well) like no any amp on the world and I kindly recommend to Kemper team to use it like a reference during OS updates.
ps
for the truth sake, I didn't play with new cab parameters , maybe there is a problem
Very similar thing happened when the new Green Scream was introduced, I had to adjust all rigs with green scream to match the sound, where new sound was better than previous.

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A number of people have actually commented on the sound and have indicated that the 2.4 bass issue is fixed. Can you post some audio examples of 2.3.x and 2.4.1? I don't want to upgrade if there is a verifiable problem.

just updated to 2.4.1 an boot time is now from 1:06.76 seconds down to 0:50.21 seconds with 718 rigs.

I didn't notice the bass bug but I did notice something weird on 2.4 (Official Release). I have been in the studio filming a new instructional DVD/Video and I used my CLR powered wedge during the shoot. As I was playing, I noticed phasing coming from the speaker. Talked to the engineer and he said he didn't notice anything in the control room.

Anyone experienced phasing issues on 2.4?

Photos of the set up etc are on my twitter...German's Twitter

Quote from Per

I need to profile with both to see which sounds closer to the real amp.

Here's a sample though of "PaulTS Jubilee Marsh" profile with a strat. I'd tweaked the cab parameters to add more bass and reduce the treble slightly from the stock, but it's the same in both firmware versions. To me the difference is huge, and not just bass response.

http://www.peranders.com/general/firmwaretest.wav

[edit]First is 2.4.0, second is 2.4.1[/edit]

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And, ANOTHER spanner in the works! :

THIS RIG MAY BE A BAD PROFILE CANDIDATE FOR TONE COMPARISON: The Cab parameters of this rig on Rig Exchange may not be exactly as when it was profiled. I may have adjusted them some before uploading it - I would have to compare to the original profile, to be certain.

Related to this thread's subject: A new dedicated thread for EACH RELEASE is a good idea. Changing the title of one thread each time the release changes is a VERY BAD IDEA. It will turn in into a thread that:
1) confuses people about when the current release became available
2) makes people think the current release has ALL the problems mentioned in the thread

Let the 2.4.1 thread die with that release.

Make a new thread for the next public release.

And, a new thread for the NEXT public release.

Etc

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[quote='Per','index.php?page=Thread&postID=147951#post147951']

Let the 2.4.1 thread die with that release.

That seems like an eminently sensible suggestion!

I happened to like 2.4.0 for some tones, for instance I like my lead tones a bit darker. Kemper staff, is there any way I can get close to the sound of 2.4.0 with 2.4.1? I've tried raising lows and mids in the amp tonestack section by 0.1 each and got close, but not quite there methinks. Thanks!

Bass bug is gone in 2.4.1

Hello All,

I have just gone through my fav and not happy.

I have noticed that most of my rigs now sound muddy and some have an oscillating sound like a phaser or under water. WTF is going on.

I have also notice a lot of my rigs now have plus or minus in the cabs.

Now when I go to my performance mode and play a rig, that rig does not sound the same and the same rig in Browser mode.

Please fix this.

Gezza.

Hi Gezza, can you record a sample and share here please?

Quote from ReDRuM

You don't understand the discussion because you don't want to understand it.

Don't be that nice....

I'm a professional guitar-player/producer and I can't afford working with buggy beta-versions. For sure there've been troubles with 2.4.0, because CK changed the official version back to beta-status, which simply means: it's still buggy.

Why not wait a little bit until the official version will appear? Just because of 10 to 15 seconds less booting-time and risking that probably ALL rigs will sound different? I don't get this, but everybody can install whatever he wants.

@Günter: Problem here is that RM expires and would ONLY accept the (then) official release 2.40.
It was 2.40 and RM or 2.33 and no RM.

It was a peculiar situation and could have been avoided by Kemper.

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@Günter: Problem here is that RM expires and would ONLY accept the (then) official release 2.40.
It was 2.40 and RM or 2.33 and no RM.

It was a peculiar situation and could have been avoided by Kemper.

There's an easy way to use RM 1.0 Public Beta #4 with 2.3.3., it works fine. You just need the little program "RunAsDate", here's the thread about it.

If you make a shortcut, you can use RM with 2.3.3 like normal.

For sure it's not very comfortable that the only RM-version from the Kemper-webside requires 2.4.0/2.4.1. So you need an old beta-RM with some tricks to use the last official firmware-version (2.3.3). Or you use the official RM with a firmware beta-version, strange anyway.....

I'm currently playing with a profile back and forth. I can't record where I'm at right now, but it appears I'm hearing difference.

More highs in an earlier version with TAF's Bluesbreaker FULL2. I'm going back again to the earlier version to confirm it to myself.

Only way to truly know is to record side-by-side comparisons. I'll leave that to others. Get back in a moment.

I need 2.3.3 to check.

Apparently restore's don't alter the OS, just restore your rigs and settings. So the changes I'm hearing are alterations to settings. Not the OS.

Ahh, I see exactly where I have differences now:

The Distortion setting is lower on my older backup. Gotta ensure consistent parameters, oops! Good lesson for me!

I also thought backups backups the OS you had at that time too. Not so!