Loss of low end/more pronounced high end

    Is it just me that gets this feeling with a bass through the Kemper? I always feel that a lot of "boingy" frequencies are accentuated, while the low end seems to be diffused in some way?


    Who's got any suggestions for a great bass tone? I have a great bass and I pretty much use that DI into my interface with EQ controls to achieve different sounds. What do you think?

    You might want to exclude the Amp section and see what happens. If it sounds like your DI, as I believe, then it's the profile imparting its filter to the sound, and it's only a matter of finding the right profile for your needs.
    No amp/profile would be able to *extend* the passing band of an instrument, so trying the "no-amp" path makes sense to me


    :)

    Quote from Lokasenna

    r.u.sirius has some great Marshall Superbass profiles on the rig exchange. There's an awesome Darkglass B7K set, just labelled 1 through 6, and some Gallien Krueger profiles labelled A to E - C is great for some really deep, clanky tones.


    Also try his H&K Bassmaster rigs. Those are my go-to-bass-rigs for a few months now.

    I don't know. Perhaps I just prefer the sound of the raw bass, just find the profiler more useful with my guitar than my bass. Here's a recording I did of some tones with the DI bass.


    https://soundcloud.com/jimmy-rage/esp-horizon-bass-track


    When I try bass profiles, for example, something by Keith Merrow or Ola Englund, there's just so much high frequency content, with all that clank accentuated and a lot of other frequencies that I wouldn't associate with low-end.


    Probably just looking at the wrong profiles, I think those must have been watered down before release. I'll try out your tone hammer profiles, pacocito, thanks.

    Quote from Mago

    ^those are all tones of just the Bass DI? 3rd one as well?


    I guess you bass is pretty clanky to begin with, so you'd need rather dark profiles to compensate that


    Yes, Mago. All DI into my interface. I had just received the bass at the time and did the demo for my friends on talkbass.com, in case anyone was interested in hearing how an ESP Horizon-II Five-Stringer sounds like. Hadn't even been playing bass for long, so I just tried to play parts from popular songs that I could figure out.


    I'm also the "administrator" of the ESP Club on those forums ^^


    Which reminds me, better check back over there! :thumbup:

    I know this thread is a little old, but I'd be interested if opinions have changed any? My personal experience (without doing any metering to validate my perception) is that the Kemper has a lot of low end filtering. I noticed this even with guitar on the Kemper when I was comparing it with my AxeFX2. Note that I ended up selling the Axe and keeping the Kemper, with no regrets. I had hoped at one point to build a full range rig with the Kemper playing the part of both Bass and Guitar Preamp sections (this was also a fail for me). I still prefer the tone when using the Kemper monitor out into the effect return on my 6505+ into Armaggedon 4x12 or Mesa combo vs. the actual amps' pre-amp section. But...there is just this sense of missing low end frequencies, that thump, that I haven't been able to achieve yet with the Kemper. My normal bass rig is a Music Man Sterling into a B7K, then to a Mesa Big Block 750 going out to a SWR 6x10 and an Ampeg 410HLF. My normal live tone is actually probably more mid heavy and cutting than is typical, but there is still that full low end that seems to be missing through my Kemper studio recording chain. Prior to the Kemper, my bass recording setup was typically at least three different channels. One was almost always from a Radial DI into an Ensemble and then the FlipTop model in the Amplitube Ampeg plugin. The others changed between the old faithful Sansamp (usually for dirt), a Chandler Germanium, Avalon U5, API mic pre, UA6176, or Neve pre for different colors and depth. I think that the Sansamp stuff is where I was able to get enough of those lower frequencies where it still had that weight that I want in my bass guitar tone. I've sold off much of that gear feeling confident that I would be able to get there with the Kemper. With guitar, although I notice the missing lows, I still get the best sounding, mix ready recorded guitar I've ever had. I think external processing or layering with other chains might be required to get the bass sound I want from the Kemper. I have only played around a little bit with the new parallel path, but so far I haven't had the results I'd hoped I would.


    I am hoping that someone here has some tips on using just the Kemper to get that low end thump I'm missing, and if not, any recommendations on other outboard or virtual gear that has worked well for you in conjunction with the Kemper.


    Cheers