Which Headphones ? under 150€

  • Hi all,


    I am trying to found a good headphones to connect into my Focusrite Forte,


    Can you help me to find which one of these are better ?

    • Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro 32 Ohm
    • Audio-Technica ATH-M50X
    • Beats By Dr. Dre solo HD
    • AKG K545


    I'm open to other suggestions


    Thank you
    Cheers

  • Hey Thomas,


    what are the characteristics of your interface's HP out?


    This affects a lot the best coupling.
    If you're interested in understanding more about choosing a pair of HPs, you might want to have a look here.


    HTH

  • Many thanks for your replies,


    The headphones is to connect into my Focusrite Forte, where my Kemper is connected.


    These are the specification on my Focusrite headphone output


    Headphone Outputs Measurered with PSU connected


    Frequency Response20Hz-20kHz +/- 0.1 dB
    SNR (A-weighted)-116 dB
    THD+N <0.0008% (-1dBFS input 1kHz, 20Hz/22kHz bandpass filter, 10k load)
    Maximum Output into 10k+9 dBu (+7dBV)
    Maximum Power into 150R30 mW
    Maximum Power into 32R27 mW
    Output Impedance< 8 Ohm
    sLoad Impedance> 24 Ohms


    I don´t understand nothing about this, so wondering if there are someone here that have the knowledge that I don´t have to help me ?


    Many many thanks in advance
    Cheers


  • I don't know what things like "150R30" mean. Impedance is very low anyway, which makes for an easy coupling, specially with HPs with a good sensitivity (around 100 dB and more if you want a good amount of volume).
    I'd recommend not going below an impedance of 80 ohm for the best linearity.
    With this in mind, you can choose what wears (fits) and sounds best to you :)

  • <p>May I know what is the purpose of getting the headphone? ie Mixing ? Or Pleasure listening? Rule of thumb is to get the lowest impedence with the highest sensitivity...</p>


    <p>My personal experience ... I got a pair of Marshall Major with impedence 32 and sensitivity 121. this is powerful enough to drive the load even via i-phone since it come with low impedence. I endorsed it for the mid-range (if thats what you are after...) ... Bass response is meaty and less brittle&nbsp;</p>


    <p>If you are using it for mixing, my suggestion is to get used to the frequency on the pair of headphone for pleasure listening by listening to more of your favourite hits/ mix on it ... You will know what kind of bass/mid/treble frequency it delivers and henceforth, you will mix it the way what the commercial songs delivers from it .. &nbsp; Of cos there is a school of thought that you can never get a clean mix via headphone, but you can sure get a good mix only when you are familar with the frequency with that same headphone ...Thats applied for studio monitor. When come to mixing , there is no right or wrong, what it matters its if it sounds good and translated well in common audio interface... Just some of my personal experience during my headphone hunt .....</p>


    <p>Of cos, it sounds good with KPA ...<img alt="laugh" src="http://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/wcf/js/3rdParty/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/teeth_smile.png" style="height:23px; width:23px" title="laugh" /></p>


    <p>&nbsp;</p>

  • Hi All,


    I think I made a decision, the winner will be:


    Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro


    Headphone impedance 250 ohms
    Headphone frequency response 5 - 35.000 Hz


    I will order tomorrow... just to see if someone have something to say :)


    Thank you so much for all your help and comments
    Cheers

  • Good choice, love mine :)
    gianfranco: 150R30 means 150,30 Ohms usually... but in this case I'd say it's a typo and means 30mW @150R (150 Ohms)

    MJT Strats / PRS Guitars / Many DIY Guitars -- Kemper Profiler Rack / Kemper Remote / InEar

  • I have Beyer Dynamic 880 Pro 250 Ohms and love them. Beyers, in general, appear to be more forward and bass light compared to other 'phones, but then you realise that they don't artificially over-pronounce the low end like other cans and actually go very deep (incidentally, the worst, most misrepresented and bloated bass award goes to Beats...). Much more useful when balancing the lower frequencies.


    Cheers,
    Sam

  • Yeah, good question. In Beyerworld, if it was mostly tracking with the possibilty of some mixing, I'd go with the 770s (closed back). Mostly mixing, then 990s. Mixing exclusively, then 880s (they spill quite a fair bit so would be unsuitable for tracking vocals, for example).


    AKG have a few outstanding models, Sennheiser also have a fair few, Audio Technica have a decent reputation and I've read that the high-end Shures are killer. If possible, I'd take an iPod or such with some high resolution tracks alongside mp3s (good cans will highlight the difference in quality better than poorer ones) to a store and try a bunch out and get the ones that suit you the best within your budget.


    Cheers,
    Sam

  • Strong supporter for Beyerdynamics here, I use the DT-770 Pro 80 Ohms for many many years. You simply don't go wrong with them.
    But ... think twice if you really want 250 Ohms version. If you like to listen loud, you will likely need a separate headphones amp. For the Focusrite interfaces I had (lots of Saffires and a few Scarletts) the 80 Ohms were just right. The 250s would not produce enough volume.


    Cheers
    Martin

  • Rule of thumb is to get the lowest impedence with the highest sensitivity...


    This doesn't sound advisable to me.
    When the HPs' impedance is in the same magnitude order of the output inpedance, all the non-linearities it the HPs' impedance will translate as non-linearities in the amplitude response of the output.
    In order to avoid this, it's advisable to use HPs whose impedance is at least 10 times higher than the output's one. That's the reason why dedicated preamps sound good (low impedance and high power), and that's why I suggested HPs with a good sensitivity.
    See the article I linked a couple of posts above for reference.


    gianfranco: 150R30 means 150,30 Ohms usually... but in this case I'd say it's a typo and means 30mW @150R (150 Ohms)


    Thanks dude :thumbup:

  • Strong supporter for Beyerdynamics here, I use the DT-770 Pro 80 Ohms for many many years. You simply don't go wrong with them.
    But ... think twice if you really want 250 Ohms version. If you like to listen loud, you will likely need a separate headphones amp. For the Focusrite interfaces I had (lots of Saffires and a few Scarletts) the 80 Ohms were just right. The 250s would not produce enough volume.


    Cheers
    Martin


    How about Kempers HP output with DT770 80 Ohm? Because with ATH M50 I have to go to VOLUME ~3.0 not to damage my hearing....

  • Great topic gang, I'm on my 2nd pair of headphones I hate. ill definitely try some of the aforementioned sets, as soon as my wife isn't looking that is. She got me the worst ones for Christmas lol.