Kemper profiles that has actually been used on albums???

Quote from RDM

Isn't it a case of:

TONE (gear) + TECHNIQUE (human element) + ENVIRONMENT (room) = THE SOUND YOU HEAR

Therefore if 2 people take it in turns to play the same gear in the same room, THE SOUND YOU HEAR in each case will be different, because they will not have exactly the same TECHNIQUE.

Now this difference might be minimal if they are just playing a single barre chord repeatedly, but will become more noticeable the more complicated the piece (e.g. the more TECHNICALLY difficult).

I think people are arguing at crossed purposes. I think Cederick is saying TONE and TECHNIQUE are separate (as per my equation) and people are then saying "No, TECHNIQUE definitely affects the TONE.", when perhaps they actually mean "the hands really have an influence on the SOUND YOU HEAR"?

Or, I could be completely wrong - anyway football's on now, so I'm off.

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Yup, this is pretty much how I think about it.

Quote from SQUAREHEAD

Its 1979, EVH was in Toronto - Van Halen was playing Maple Leaf Gardens, the afternoon of that day he visited Steve‘s music store, everyone obviously went bonkers, with Eddie Van Halen in the store, so they asked him if he plug-in and play…
Steve‘s Music Was not a Marshall dealer at that time so they plugged him into a brand new Fender super reverb,
He played for about 15 minutes and people’s jaws were on the floor…
A friend of mine was there that day and said Eddie sounded so close to the record it was scary…
I wager to bet that no one ever got that tone from that amp before he played it or ever again…
True story.

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Jaws drops becuase of the amazing playing style of EVH

He could have played through a crappy Peavey practice amp and people would still love his playing style despite crappy tone

Quote from Michael_dk

You gotta go try one out at a store, at least - just to make sure you have the right perspective. Couldn't hurt.

No way I can afford one right now, tho.
And playing one in the store is useless.
How would I know how it sounds recorded in a mix?

I never trust an amp sound just by listening in the room.

It's all about how it sounds in the mix

Haha no I dont. I know exactly what you're saying. Same thing as Ironword and 808.
But it's still just playing style / technique / licks / riffs

Same to you