Does anyone making profiles with DI think that the completed profile has more gain than the amp setting using a DI? I go back and play between the amp and the Kemper after a few days and on the medium gain settings for my amp I end up dropping the gain about 1 increment (not 1 dot - whatever the units are from 3.5 to 2.5) on the Kemper during A/B sessions. Curious for the opinion of others on this.
Gain added on DI profiles?
- bshaw92
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from the manual:
"For correct leveling and reproduction of a distorted Rig with a reamped instrument, two level settings must be performed: the absolute reamp level at the recording device and the amount of distortion by “Reamp Sens”. For clean sounding Rigs, only the absolute reamp level is necessary.
✓ Two tutorial videos explaining configuration of Output Sources for recording and reamping can be found at: http://www.kemper-amps.com/video"
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I'm not reamping or recording. I make profiles without a cab (DI device - Weber Mass 200). I then have some cabs of speaker/mic combinations that I have found consistent. I add that cab and compare with the original amp. I'm finding that profiling without a cab yields a little more gain compared to profiling with a cab and mic.
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Sounds like the issue might be the DI box. Which DI are you using?
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Weber Mass 200. I will try my Two Notes Captor and Ultra GI100 and see if I get different results.
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The Webber and Captor are both attenuators with built in DI. They will definitely have some effect on the profile. Not necessarily better or worse (that’s all just taste) but they will colour the sound to some extent and possibly affect the perception of gain.
I find I get better profiles with a £30 ART passive DI than my Two Notes Torpedo Reload.
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The Webber and Captor are both attenuators with built in DI.
Yes, I own them. I will see if there is difference with the GI-100. I noticed this also with the Ox amp top box although it was a smaller variation.
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I would expect a bit of a difference with the OX too.
Hope the cheap Berhinger works.
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Hope the cheap Berhinger works.
Been doing this since 2012. Used it many times with without cabs with success. How the DI's compare to each other and the amp is the big question. Transparency is the key not cost.
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For transparency you probably want a passive DI and. Real cab. Even a reactive load doesn’t provide the same impedance curve as a real cab.
I have tried it yet but the Kemper DI looks like being about as transparent as it gets.
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I profiled my main sounds using the Kemper DI box. Worked awesome. I used a real cab to monitor and test.. They were pretty close to confuse which was which in a blind test.
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I've spent some time doing a DI using the Weber, Behringer and a cabinet with Fathead II mic, preamp and WGS Blackhawk. They all 3 came up with the same gain value +/- (3.5, 3.6, 3.5 resp). I loved the cab and mic so much I did about (10) profiles. I will check back after a few days to have a fresh perspective. If no one else has noticed this maybe my reference was off.