For what it’s worth they’ve indicated that that’s never gonna happen. I believe because of DSP, but also be an organizational nightmare from the way everything would be laid out GUI on a unit that was not built for that.
Also, for my experience, having owned a quad cortex for a month before returning, I could never find a combination of amps to use in parallel that I liked better than any single amp combination. Plus for me it became option paralysis because now it wasn’t even a matter of finding two profiles I liked, but presuming that if I liked by themselves, I would like when combined? Perhaps the best combination when used in parallel would be two profiles that I don’t like using by themselves?
Some interesting combinations to be sure, but it almost felt like it took away from the character of the two amps. It also vastly complicated the volume balance issues.
With current hardware - never gonna happen.
By all indications - not even then.
I would love to see this in a Kemper 2.0. To be able to combine 2 different amps. Not only for a massive tone but more importantly for me, to be able to use the Kemper with a guitar and bass that has both magnetic pickups and piezo pickups. That way each could be processed separately and then combined internally or using individual outputs. Not only using seperate profiles, but utilizing separate effects and placed into the stereo pan.
I would love to see this in a Kemper 2.0. To be able to combine 2 different amps. Not only for a massive tone but more importantly for me, to be able to use the Kemper with a guitar and bass that has both magnetic pickups and piezo pickups. That way each could be processed separately and then combined internally or using individual outputs. Not only using seperate profiles, but utilizing separate effects and placed into the stereo pan.
Dual amps do not give a massive sound. Having two cabinets, and using any kind of audio trick (different cabs, different effects in identical cabs, stereo effects) to offset the sound timbre of one against the other, can give a massive sound. Simply layering an amp with another amp does not give a "massive" sound. It may even thin your sound out, depending on which amps and at which settings.
You can do two, three, four, ... profiles at the same time when reamping.
One thing to realize is that this question makes the rounds here at least a few times a year.
The idea of a Kemper "2.0" has been thrown around, asked about and 'foretold' pretty much since the Profiler was released in 2011.
To me, the only way that would happen is if Kemper found a breakthrough equal to the invention of profiling. Something truly groundbreaking that no one else has done and that current hardware can't run. Releasing a new unit with a few bells and whistles added to the existing tech is....pretty much the next OS release.
One thing to realize is that this question makes the rounds here at least a few times a year.....
The idea of a Kemper "2.0" has been thrown around, asked about and 'foretold' pretty much since the Profiler was released in 2011....To me, the only way that would happen is if Kemper found a breakthrough equal to the invention of profiling. Something truly groundbreaking that no one else has done and that current hardware can't run. Releasing a new unit with a few bells and whistles added to the existing tech is....pretty much the next OS release.
I disagree, Eventually there will be a new model with more features. Just a fact of life with audio gear. A 2.0 will surely have higher resolution and have even more realistic profiles. It will certainly have power for more effects to be used simultaneously. I would also assume it would have more outputs and flexibility and I would have both separate mono and stereo effect loops at the same time. That said, all the updates over the years I have been very thankful for and have made the Kemper a fantastic investment and tool for both live and studio use.
I don't see much where Kemper can improve other than adding more bling. Sure, everybody wants more effect models. But with Liquid Profiling, the profiles are as realistic as you are gonna get. (98-99% is fine with me). I've got my money on Kemper introducing Liquid Cabbing next year! That's the last part of the game in "game changer".
I disagree, Eventually there will be a new model with more features. Just a fact of life with audio gear. A 2.0 will surely have higher resolution and have even more realistic profiles. It will certainly have power for more effects to be used simultaneously. I would also assume it would have more outputs and flexibility and I would have both separate mono and stereo effect loops at the same time. That said, all the updates over the years I have been very thankful for and have made the Kemper a fantastic investment and tool for both live and studio use.
Christoph Kemper has said - repeatedly - that he’s taken the profiling process as far as he can. He’s been saying that for at least 6 years. Maybe he figures something out….but the Profiling process is hand coded and integral to the chip it runs on. Something CK has said before.
Updating that would likely mean a complete reengineering of the process to run on a different chip. Personally, I don’t see an inventor sitting down to generate marginal (if any) gains on a problem he solved 13+ years ago.
If you look at Kemper’s track record, their major releases are things like the Profiler, the Kone, the concepts of Kemper Drive and Fuzz. Liquid Profiles were announced in 2011…it took this long to figure out how to go about it.
More outputs, effects and loops isn’t a 2.0.
Display MoreChristoph Kemper has said - repeatedly - that he’s taken the profiling process as far as he can. He’s been saying that for at least 6 years. Maybe he figures something out….but the Profiling process is hand coded and integral to the chip it runs on. Something CK has said before.
Updating that would likely mean a complete reengineering of the process to run on a different chip. Personally, I don’t see an inventor sitting down to generate marginal (if any) gains on a problem he solved 13+ years ago.
If you look at Kemper’s track record, their major releases are things like the Profiler, the Kone, the concepts of Kemper Drive and Fuzz. Liquid Profiles were announced in 2011…it took this long to figure out how to go about it.
More outputs, effects and loops isn’t a 2.0.
Christoph had also said audio over USB was not possible and here it is. Computer processing power has come a long way in the last 13 years. Besides dual processing for giant amp tones or being able to dual process an instrument with mag and piezo pickups, it would be cool if a guitar and bass player could use the Kemper simultaneously for a recording. As good as the Kemper is and I think it is great, I still think there is room for improvement to have an even more realistic emulation of amps. Particularly in the dynamics part of playing a real tube amp. The change in volume and gain as you dig in harder and the waya real tube amp clean up (power amp distortion) when an instrument volume is rolled off. In that regard, the profiles to me don't quite act like the real thing. In addition, for me, more flexible routing and increased power for effects definitely is a big part of what I think will eventually be a Kemper 2.0
I don’t recall him ever saying it wasn’t possible. Which is a silly statement anyway, given its ubiquitous nature for as long as I can recall. Besides, USB audio is hardly a new invention.
The profiler doesn’t require a lot of DSP to run profiles. Not sure why you think power is a limiting factor when they’ve said the opposite many times. The only time I hear complaints of the Profiler’s performance is discussions like this.
All I’m saying is if a ‘2.0’ is forthcoming, it will need to include something truly innovative and novel (as in - not seen before) aspects.
IMO - Anything less is slapping features on and calling it good. Not unlike cellphone releases these days. Incremental progress, at best.
Ruefus, in my last posts, I wrote about where I could see improvements in the Kemper's realism in regards to dynamics, more simultaneous effects and its related routing, more loops and outputs and as the thread is titled, the ability to use two profiles simultaneously.. I know it would take more processing power to achieve these thing. I also stated I think the Kemper is a great product, still the best of its kind, that's not complaining. If you are happy enough with what you have, then you should just troll on. It appears this thread is not for you.
Ruefus, in my last posts, I wrote about where I could see improvements in the Kemper's realism in regards to dynamics, more simultaneous effects and its related routing, more loops and outputs and as the thread is titled, the ability to use two profiles simultaneously.. I know it would take more processing power to achieve these thing. I also stated I think the Kemper is a great product, still the best of its kind, that's not complaining. If you are happy enough with what you have, then you should just troll on. It appears this thread is not for you.
You’d know it if I were trolling. The words that come to mind reading your post are ad hominem.
You don’t agree with me? Nor I you.
Cope.
You’d know it if I were trolling. The words that come to mind reading your post are ad hominem.
You don’t agree with me? Nor I you.
Cope.
Your blathering in the Feature requests forum claiming the requests wished for here are "complaining" is missing the very point of this space as are your straw man arguments. Those are the acts of a troll and something you alone are left to "cope" with.
Your blathering in the Feature requests forum claiming the requests wished for here are "complaining" is missing the very point of this space as are your straw man arguments. Those are the acts of a troll and something you alone are left to "cope" with.
😱🤣 Where have I complained? I’ve stated my opinion.
You don’t like it - or perhaps the way I’ve presented it. Therefore, I’m a troll in your eyes. Regardless, have the last word. Please.
The profiler doesn’t require a lot of DSP to run profiles. Not sure why you think power is a limiting factor when they’ve said the opposite many times. The only time I hear complaints of the Profiler’s performance is discussions like this.
I never said that running profiles required massive DSP. That is one of your straw man arguments. And here is where you claimed I and others making feature requests were "complaints".
You can do two, three, four, ... profiles at the same time when reamping.
Do you do a lot of reamping live Larry 🤣
Do you do a lot of reamping live Larry 🤣
As far as I know, I am alive when I reamp. 
OP did not specify "live or dead". 
For what it’s worth they’ve indicated that that’s never gonna happen. I believe because of DSP, but also be an organizational nightmare from the way everything would be laid out GUI on a unit that was not built for that.
Also, for my experience, having owned a quad cortex for a month before returning, I could never find a combination of amps to use in parallel that I liked better than any single amp combination.
Entirely agree with you !!!
I've played with modelers' parallels paths possibilities ; Wet/dry/wet ; 4 amps/cabs in //, it's fun 5 mns but you stop quickly.... At the same time, there's another guitarist in our band.
But I've never seen guitarist using rigs that way (on stage).... 
Besides dual processing for giant amp tones or being able to dual process an instrument with mag and piezo pickups, it would be cool if a guitar and bass player could use the Kemper simultaneously for a recording.
Would it be convenient to set it ? I've tried that with Helix and a second path for another guitarist, it's not practical at all....
IMO, for recording, plugins are more efficient or a solution where everyone has their own device.... and IMO, Kemper prefer sells 2 devices instead of one
