I was really curious what kind of new gear will be announced at Musikmesse. And today Roland/Boss anounced their ground breaking, earth shaking, breath taking new products. Man, I'm totally psyched! They announced 2 brand new and super high tech ...
accordions 
Can it get worse than that?
Yes ,it can get worse than that .
They could introduce only ONE accordion !
Yes ,it can get worse than that .
They could introduce only ONE accordion !
two accordions are always worse than one in my book. 
What do you guys think about this "controller" hype from Akai to Native Instruments to Korg ...
I think building dedicated controllers for computer software is a logical thing.
'Push' for Ableton Live comes to mind but also Akai or NI or Korg as you mentioned.
The days of 'only generic' controllers are over, at least when you want to take software plus realtime performance to the next level.
I think building dedicated controllers for computer software is a logical thing.
'Push' for Ableton Live comes to mind but also Akai or NI or Korg as you mentioned.
The days of 'only generic' controllers are over, at least when you want to take software plus realtime performance to the next level.
Could you expand on that?
What does a dedicated foot controller do that a generic one does not?
I feel handicapped, i can't think of anything beyond a couple of expression pedals and on/off switches.
I think building dedicated controllers for computer software is a logical thing.
Well, don't get me wrong. It's great to have nice controllers on the market and there are certainly some I would love to own and use .... but sometimes it's just boring to sit in front of a computer screen, imho. Look at these old drum machines like the Boss DR-880 (2004), Zoom RT-223 (2005), Akai MPC 500 (2006), Alesis SR18 (2008 ). They are getting old, technology has much improved in all these years. They are still being sold and I'm sure there still is a market for these devices. Newly designed devices could easily serve as all-in-one mobile drum & bass machines AND controllers. Maybe I just missed the point where these kind of devices died in favour of smartphone apps?
Quitty:
We're talking about drum machines / rythm sequencers with built-in sound generation vs. all these weird and dumb USB controllers which can't make any sound without a computer. 
@ Quitty:
I don't speak of typical FX devices as we know it. They don't need special controllers of course.
But think of a powerful software application like Ableton Live complementing the live performance of a rock band.
You will need a more powerful dedicated controller to make use of it.
The more capable and 'special' FX become the more controllability we will want and need.
Think of EH's Hog2 for example.
How cool would it be to have a dedicated controller for it to controlle the ocaves and filters in real time to morph the sound instead of only changing presets?
You get the picture?
Seriously, we need LIKE buttons!!!
Funny Thread!
Could you expand on that?
What does a dedicated foot controller do that a generic one does not?
I feel handicapped, i can't think of anything beyond a couple of expression pedals and on/off switches.
Well, for example bi-directional communication. And dedicated controllers (or the possibility to assign them) for some proprietary KPA functions. And the tuner, and other requests that might be implemented in the pedalboard's FW in the time (a thing that no third-part controller is going to have). A dedicated controller would\could basically grow with the KPA
The market for dedicated drum machines is extremely limited these days due to essentially free versions available on line and the popularity of tablets. The reason any of the classic drum machines hold their value is due to their reputation for being fairly legendary devices. The ones less embraced are available for pennies on the dollar. Most the new market of controllers out there offer capabilities which far, far exceed what was possible on early drum machines. Here's an example of how these devices are being used. You simply can't do this kind of stuff on a Boss Dr Rhythm.
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@ viabcroce & Quitty:
Am I lost in translation, or have you guys missed what kind of controllers I was talking about? 
Possibly! LOL
@ viabcroce & Quitty:
Am I lost in translation, or have you guys missed what kind of controllers I was talking about?
When you mentioned Akai I was automatically thinking of Ableton, so...
I SO MUCH hope for an In-Ear Monitoring Device from Line6 using 2,4 Ghz technology.
I'm using the Relay G30 and played it for almost 100 gigs now. since it came out and I got shot down every time I asked'em at their booth for an IEM possibility... 
I think thats what they're gonna tell me this year as well.
I SO MUCH hope for an In-Ear Monitoring Device from Line6 using 2,4 Ghz technology.
I'm using the Relay G30 and played it for almost 100 gigs now. since it came out and I got shot down every time I asked'em at their booth for an IEM possibility...
I think thats what they're gonna tell me this year as well.
I have been requesting this since the launch of the relay line as well.
I have been requesting this since the launch of the relay line as well.
I heard its the latency, that keeps them busy... 
I hope AMT would finally launch their solid state 6L6 "tubes". Would make a real nice backup quad if they sound half decent.
