Posts by Dynochrome

The big thing for me that I researched besides ease of use, reliability and run time was latency. XSW-D has (I recall) 3.9ms and the G10 has under 2.9. so they are like standing another 3-4 ft from your amp. Mine has about 8hr play time and when inactive for a bit, will sit on standby for 200 hrs. I just charge mine during break if needed.

I won't leave it in the guitar on breaks because I'm always worried it will get snapped off. Especially on a top jack like a 335.

That's my biggest gripe about it is that it sticks out and not flexible. It got in the way of the whammy with my strat so I bought this short male-female extension to hang it from. I was going to get a right angle one for my 335 but ended up just being careful. I wish it had a flexible jack so you could keep it low profile for every input jack type. Then it would be way better. If I ever replace it, I'll do so with something that has that ability that hopefully has easily removable replaceable batteries.

I use the inexpensive G10. I've found a way to solidify the plug in for the base unit. For the range I'm planning to travel from my home base, it works perfect and it is 100% indistinguishable from a cable. I have a spare battery when the stock transmitter one ever dies (going on 150+ gigs and no need yet) I see no need to upgrade this. On breaks, I carry the transmitter around in my back pocket so nothing happens to it. I can walk up, jam it in and GO!

I've been a bit late to LP but MB's Marshalls on here are absolutely badass profiles. I really like the "reissue 20". Been playing that one with P-90s and it's real hard to stop. Sounds great in a mix, it's already "done". Real clear and alive. Outstanding work.

I think those reissue amps are cool but costly for what they are. With these awesome profiles I get to have one with FX! Thank you!

Quote from OFSnap

If I'm testing rigs for live playing I want the S/PDIF to sound exactly the same as the main outputs that I give to FOH, otherwise I'm getting fooled by the Profiler

What are are monitoring the SP/Dif through? If the FOH is using speakers in a room through a board, crossovers,poweramps etc the two signals may be exactly the same but won't sound the same regardless. Everything will change when it goes FOH unless in some amazing feat (without a spectral analyzer) you made it perfectly flat which sounds terrible. FOH is "Amp in the room" which will sound different than IEMs or your monitor onstage pointed at you using the same signal anyway. Being able to adjust them separately, would allow you to better "make them the same" I would think.

There are lots of inexpensive devices that convert digital to analog and analog digital maybe one of the other band members could do that to a channel free up some space for you as a solution until you get a bigger system.

The "forward thinking" is exactly how Kemper has kept the same model of amp relevant and competitively superior. It will go down in history just like a "plexi" or a "bassman" has.

Quote from benifin

If you really want to hear how "un-authentic" the Generic stack is .... just go to the equivalent free MBritt Pack ..... grab his 50w 68 Plexi ... use the "MB - 68 Mars Plexi 50 - 2023-07-24 14-42-42" preset which uses the LP Plexi Stack .. set everything on 10 ... sounds as you would expect ... then change the stack to Kemper Generic and set everything to 10 ... and it is one of the most horrifically bad amp sounds you are ever likely to hear :).

I agree with most everything you wrote. The generic kemper eq has a lot more range and control than a plexi amp stack does so of course maxing it out would be terrible. Maxing the bass on the head might be like turning the generic eq up 2. More range means you use less.

In this section layout "D" has been requested a few times. I really wish we could have this useful controller upgrade for live use, I'd trade liquid profiling for it.

Quote from Albiful

Thank you! A great job, appreciate your effort! Would you be so epic to make this available as a Liquid Profile?

Forgive the request, I realize I am a total Kemper noob and I still need to learn how to convert from static to liquid profiles

At first I thought liquid profiling would make the EQ section just like my amp by profiling/analyzing the frequency ranges of each knob and the amount that they influence, but it doesn't, it just takes an amp that someone else has and (I suppose) emulates that stack. Having had quite a few early vertical input 800s, I feel I know them well.

When I first heard about liquid profiling, I was thinking how cool that would be for the Kemper to profile each knob of my amp and replicate it. (even though as I have stated the 800 tonestack is not that great but would make it "authentic")

If I made a liquid profile with my amp, it would be none better, as the 800 EQ offered works nothing like my actual tone stack does. So even if it was a liquid profile, it wouldn't be like adjusting a "real" 800. The "generic" will be fine for adjusting anything wrong with the profile just as you would once you got the sound you wanted, then fixed it post in the studio. It would make the stack react differently, but not necessarily better.

You're not missing out on anything not having the latest greatest option.

I'm not, and would never badmouth a Kemper. It's the best amp I've ever had and an amazing tool that I love and makes me want to play every day. I really think I will never need anything else and the sound cannot be improved, as it sounds exactly like the target amp through a cab and mic does now. I greatly appreciate that Kemper amps keeps adding cool things but I just think liquid profiling is optional tonestacks which are nice but unnecessary. I was fine with generic adjustment of the "snapshot".

OK so even though being a naysayer to liquid profiling, I entered. Spending a few minutes with it and my 800 profile observations using the 800 EQ: Does it react like my actual 800 amp stack: not at all. Does it make it sound better? Absolutely YES more "open" and "alive". "So as I always say, "accuracy" to the original amp doesn't prevail over to what sounds best, but I could tell adding this made my profile better right away. Now I'm inspired to do my own liquid profile and see if it matches my amp' EQ better. My first test was to crank the treble. On all my 800s if you do this it becomes unbearably horrid but with the liquid stack it didn't have that same effect, it still sounded OK. When I get time I'll get into it a bit, I'm sure there's a lot to learn and I know Kemper amps knows what they're doing, I just have to keep up. Seems to be a plus!

Quote from Tony G

I think I did with your settings except for gain I put it at 5. Sounds amazing I can't stop playing it. I did change a bunch of settings because I'm playing a Les Paul. The whole amp just came alive.

I had the gain higher than 5. Most likely 7-8. On my amp any treble setting above 6 will turn the amp into a Metal zone into a Gorilla GG-10.

Quote from DonPetersen

since we do have the JCM800 Amp Model avalable

I will definitely have to check out the tone stack. If it does very little except make it simple to adjust the amp to sound terrible and strident, I'll confirm that it is accurate. If there are other 1980-1983 JCM 800 users out there let me know if you agree.

Quote from DonPetersen

for someone with a brighter sounding guitar/pickup, it might be useful to be able to adjust the mids and treble a bit, to essentially achieve the the same tone you're after - since we do have the JCM800 Amp Model avalable, it would only make sense to use this tonestack instead of the generic Kemper tonestack, to keep things as authentic as possible.

I understand that. IMO keeping things authentic comes second to making something sound good. But I get it.

Can I turn this into an accurate "liquid profile" without reprofiling it? I did a cursory read through of liquid profiling but didn't really fully digest how. I don't (yet) understand how it could know what freq the knobs are set at for the EQ. I had previously posted what Marshall claimed them to be and had some discussion wondering if and how the liquid profile would/could be accurate. (Unfortunate if it was because as I stated before, the EQ on these amps are horrible IMO)

This 4104 was found in a Church in Minneapolis preserved there in great condition since the 80's. I was fortunate enough to have one of the world's most famous tech/designers go through it and give it a clean bill of health. He asked me if I wanted to mod it but I said no as it seems like everyone that mods these for gain (although they sound awesome) regrets it so I leave mine stock.

There are tons of high gain Marshalls and other amps to buy but stock 800 are becoming rarer because back when everybody modded them. Modding them for gain can be a lot like putting a pedal in front of them and that seems to me like a better choice to not molest a piece of history only made for about 3 years.

This amp rips and the profile turned out good but I think I could do a better one as in person it sounds a bit more dynamic to me. I'll likely get around to it eventually once I embrace the liquid profile thing and determine if it would be an advantage to have it have a "real" EQ. IMO the snapshot the way I took it is not bad and the "old" Kemper stack works great fine tuning it.

As I implied, I cannot see how it would be a plus making a profile that has the exact EQ of the actual amp. It sucks and it's easy to make amps like this sound like crap adjusting the controls the way you normally might think is needed.

Quote from DonPetersen

assuming that with 'volume' you mean Master Volume, what was Preamp Volume set to?

I recall it being on about 7.5-8 where it sounds best. Any more than that and it gets a bit "pushed" to me.

JF4104LB - 2023-09-23 22-11-10.zip

Quote from DonPetersen

is this a Liquid Profile, or if not, do you have the settings so it can be retro-fitted?

The Bass was on 3 middle 3, mid 3 and treble 2.5 presence 3. It's not a liquid profile. The EQ on these 800s are so strange and interactive they can be set so many different ways to be good and lots of ways to be horrible. I know a lot of guys like to have the mids up on these amps but IMO that's what can be bad. It gets much louder that way but if you dial the mids back, it lets you push it more without becoming strident. Once you really get things cranking the EQ does less and less. This profile was done at volume of about 4, about as loud as you can yell!

Quote from Antipodes

@ Dynochrome

You can attach a zip archive with the profiles in it to your posts here - instant connection with the rest of us here without reloading Rig Manager etc.

I know what a zip file is, but not a "zip archive". So how do I take a profile and attach it?

I only have only created and posted a couple profiles. I went back and gave this one a fresh ear after a long time of playing different "professional" Friedman and Marshmallow profiles. I think it really holds up and I like that it has the bit of "coarser grain" distortion type (like an 800) and not as vanilla smooth and common.

This was like my 2nd or 3rd profile ever. (I've made less than 6 I think)What's so cool to me is I recall just setting up a mic and getting a good sound then profiling very quickly, not spending much time at all except to get levels right after the first one or two after switching cabs. It was just right there and done. I've been playing the heck out of this having fun, I think the harmonics are easy to get singing with this and the feel is good. It cleans up pretty good too like my 800 does.

A great 4104 (EL342204) through a Lynchback speaker. It's a super good sounding 800. I like it with a hot pickup like a JB. Has some common FX I like.

Look for JF4104LB Let me know what you think!

added by mod:

Bass 3

Mid 3

Treble 2.5

Presence 3
Preamp Vol TBD

Quote from V8guitar

m gonna try that one!

Wondering about your opinion.