This is a bit of a long shot but what level are you recording in the DAW. Turn on pre fader metering and check the real level. It could be that you are actually clipping in the DAW. I normally aim for around -12db to leave a decent amount of headroom.
Cubase alerts me to any clipping and the levels are fine.Yeah i also set my SPDIF Volume to -12.0 db. and the Main Out -12db box is ticked.
This is also a longshot but are you using a proper 75 ohm spdif cable ?
A good quality RCA cable can work but it's no substitute for a proper one ...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amazo…3012&s=electronics&sr=1-1 that is the one i purchased...im still new to S/PDIF so im tredding un-familiar ground when it comes to "correct" cables.
Have you tried SPDIF?
Also try another DAW; Reaper is great. Free trial. https://www.reaper.fm/download.php
If its sounding good out of your interface, it shouldn't be your interface. Try the above two steps.
I struggled for years trying to record a good distorted tone. Got there in the end, if I can do it anyone can.
Im using S/PDIF Thats why i got the Clarett 4pre 
So if Ive got this right, Kemper - Monitors and Kemper - Interface - Monitors is all good. When you hear what you've recorded, its not so good.
Try downloading Reaper. (Free Trial)
If that doesn't make any difference, try out a different interface. I'd recommend RME.
Let us know how it goes.
Yeah Monitors and headphones in the kemper sound great...im pretty sure its not the interface (Clarett 4pre) its a pretty solid unit and i would be devastated if its that as it cost me quite a pretty penny lol im certain it must be something within my PC or DAW but im just not even sure where to begin.I also had this same experience with my previous interfaces.When ever i would use a distorted tone it always sounded terrible even using amp sims like Positive grid (before i got my kemper) they would be awful sounding the same fizzy broke noise.
Clean sounds are not a problem it just seems to be distorted sounds.
Ive been playing around today and switching around the Cabinets and it seems to be kinda fixing the fizzy harshness but its still there and it still has that broken digital cheap sound when i play back a recorded take.I also noticed when i monitor the guitar track via the DAW its horrid! and sounds nothing like what is coming out of my monitors or headphones when they are directly into my Kemper.
Monitors direct out of Kemper FANTASTIC!
Headphones direct out of Kemper FANTASTIC!
Monitors direct out of Interface FANTASTIC!
Recorded take in Cubase playback SH*TE!
Its like my kemper is sending a killer sound to my interface and my interface takes that sound and passes it onto my PC where something is glitching and my Cubase doesn't know what to do with it and and just attacks it...with a chainsaw!! and spits it back out as a mess FML! lol
Thanks again for all you dudes and your patience with my struggles its deeply appreciated.
#determined \m/
that’s what I initially thought too Vinny. However, in Adam’s case it appears that he gets the problem on the recorded signal (ie on playback when there is only one signal preset) so I wonder if there is some way that the signal chain is actually capturing both signals when recording.
Exactly! my kemper sounds fantastic through my HS7s then i record the tone but playback sounds like junk and nothing like what i hear when monitoring through my monitors.I really have no other way of describing it other than broken digital fizz especially sitting around the 5k -10k area even if i do a dramatic EQ cut its STILL there im certain its not an EQ problem im pretty sure its an internal DAW problem but i cant figure it out.
Here is a single track recording nothing amazing just an example of that "Fizzy" broken digital sound im trying to explain lol i get this with ALL my guitars and all distortion profiles.This recording is un EQ'd just straight from the kemper pure cabinet disabled.
I havn't listened to your samples (at work) but your discription of a phasey sound its exactly how I'd describe a problem I'm having at the moment and I've traced it to Reaper. Using Ableton Live it sounds fine, using no DAW at all and it sounds fine, headphones direct from Kemper is fine but as soon as Reaper is opened it sounds like muck - bad digital modeling from years ago with a phasey sound. I've actually been meaning to make a post on the Reaper forums about it but havn't got around to recording clips.
I've tried on a laptop and a much more powerful desktop with a clean install and have the same problem each time. From Googling all I've found is there may be Fx on the input but in my case there isn't. As it happens on a clean install I'm thinking I've the Reaper input settings wrong but Reaper is pretty straightforward. I need to do more digging regardless.
All that to say I don't have a solution for you, but at least know you're not alone
Thanks man! i thought i was losing my mind hahaha it just sounds like im running my guitar directly through a Metalzone directly into my PC haha like a fizzy hissy phazey frequency thats smothering the sound that no amount of EQing will get rid of...its really frustrating and its only when i play a recording back within my DAW (Cubase 10 pro) or if im monitoring the track in the DAW it just sounds like garbage.
Sorry you are struggling with the same thing dude.
I don’t think the sample rate is the issue as that would tend to be set at the interface which seems to be working OK in your case. It might be possible that your project is running at a different sample rate than the interface but I’m not familiar with Cubase.
The most likely culprit is something on the DAW channel or master bus that is active by mistake or, you are hearing two different signals at he same time causing phase alignment issues. However, the phase problem would be more likely if you were monitoring off the input and the channel at the same time. In your case it sounds like the issue is there on playback when you aren’t playing at the same time so you would need to be recording two signals simultaneously that are a little out of time with each other. It is possible but probably unlikely.
My kemper is set to 44.1 my interface sample rate is 44.1 khz (Clock source S/PDIF) S/PDIF Source RCA. My Cubase project settings are...
Sample rate: 44.100khz
Bit Depth: 24 bit.
My S/PDIF output on the Kemper is "Master Stereo".
Could it be the "ADD CHANNEL" in cubase im getting wrong?...im presented with quite a few options of which channel to add if that makes sense.
I usually click "ADD CHANNEL" and select in the "audio input" section "S/PDIF 2 MONO" And in the "CONFIGURATION" section i select "MONO".
Please forgive me if im being an absolute Noob my DAW education is purely trial and error and youtube videos its tough trying to explain what ya dont really understand lol.
Again i thank you all for your patience and help.
Just to confirm
Everything is fine without the interface/DAW = KPA not the problem
Recording sounds different = problem either interface or DAW
is the sound straight from the interface to speakers (no DAW) the same as KPA direct to speakers. Yes = DAW setting problem. No = interface problem.
I’m starting to think you have a plug-in active on the master bus or something like that.
Monitors direct into Kemper sounds fine headphones in kemper sound fine monitors direct out of Interface fine...so it must be something within my PC/DAW. maybe sample rate? i dunno im not really if at all clued up with all the workings of DAWS and tech stuff hmmm...
To me, that just sounds like it needs to be low passed at between 7-10kHz. This is always done when recording, especially, distorted guitars and will remove the fizzy/phasey issue you cite, which is due to micing.
i did some insane reduction already around the 7-10 its pretty much my first go to thing to do like ya say those areas are nasty when distorted but it was getting so severe it was getting buried i couldnt really reduce anymore at this point without totally killing the tone lol
UPDATE: So i plugged my monitors directly into the Kemper and of course it sounds great something that i never doubted.The main confusion and frustration was IS why does the playback of the recorded guitar NOT sound like what is coming through the monitors lol.So in this sound demo i unplugged the SPDIF and used Monitor out (Master Mono setting) direct into my interface (input 1) which is USB direct into my PC.Using the same guitar and the same profile...unless im going insane and somebody is playing games it sounds insanely different lol
I'am insanely grateful for all of you guys for helping this noob out your help is a much appreciated lifeline \m/
Whatever you do, I strongly suggest that you hang in there, Adam. You've no doubt heard many clips and recordings that sound good to you, and I can assure you that in most cases the users aren't doing anything special - no fancy tricks. Even the factory sound set should sound way better than what you seem to be experiencing.
So it makes no sense to me for you to give up when you know what's possible sound-wise; it's just a matter of getting to the bottom of it. Captain Obvious, I know, but your expression that you're almost ready to give up made me feel like reminding you of this. It should be easy-peasy, mate. It'll be like chalk and cheese when you finally get to hear what you'd been expecting all along.
It does sound like there's not a lot of cabinet action happening in the example tone. Agree that it sounds thin-and-fizzy.
Thanks man...i'm still hopeful/determined i will get there \m/
So, does unticking that ‘Cab Off’ option make the difference you want?
makes no difference as im running it through SPDIF.
cabinet IS turned on.
Hey guys!
Sorry for STILL struggling with my unit but its becoming such a drag almost to the point now of just selling it and moving on all together. Ive purchased so many well known bundles and downloaded so many free ones from the many recommended profiles etc etc i've upgraded my interface to quite a modestly high end one (Clarett 4pre) my monitors are upgraded to Hs7's ive purchased cables that were recommended im doing everything i can possible do to try and achieve the level of quality i see/hear so many other kemper users achieve but it always just seems to sound like garbage.To me they all sound like cheap digital vst's with fizzy phazey layer .Ive attempted EQ to try and remove the horrid-ness but the adjustments become so severe that the original tone is destroyed.Surely they all cant be this bad...surely somewhere in my setup there is something going wrong.At first i thought maybe its my guitar but i get the exact same result from all three of my very different guitars (Gibson SG Standard/ESP Viper 1000 Deluxe and ESP 1007 Eclipse) im not peeking going into my kemper nor am i peeking going into my interface (my connection is Guitar into INPUT then SPDIF out into interface then interface into PC).
I have noticed the sound from my Monitors that are coming direct from the unit sound insanely different to what Cubase records and plays back.
SPDIF CLOCK on the kemper is set to 44.1 as is the sample rate in Cubase 10.
SPDIF OUTPUT on kemper is set to "Master stereo".
MAIN OUT is ticked at -12db
Monitor Cab off is Ticked.
Monitor Stereo is Ticked.
SPDIF Out Link is Ticked.
Sorry if non of this makes sense im a "musician" i play instruments and all this tech stuff confuses me lol.
I've attached a sample of a rough recording to show you what i mean.Its a solo'd guitar track doubled far right/far left (standard stuff) then within a mix with bass and drums then a little sample trying to show that harshy fizzy phaze crap i get from all metal distortion profiles.
If there is no fix then this will be me finished with the kemper sadly.I hope i CAN fix this.
Thanks in advance guys.
Adam.
Tim Wards Orange Rockerverbs distortions 1 and 2 and 3 are pretty darn gorgeous! in fact i can quite confidently say they are best rockerverb profiles ive heard to date. I own an actual MK2 and i always wanted a profile but could never find a decent one but now i have found 3 
if Tim is on here i thank you man.\m/
Thanks Thumas these sound killer! \m/
Do you hear the fizz if you use headphones direkt out of the KPA ?
Eliminating one bit in the sound chain at the time while "troubleshooting"
Do you hear it if you´re using a real amp with distorted sound ?
Just wondering
I dont hear it when using my actual Rockerverb MKII im not really hearing it when the KPA is coming out my HS7 monitors or when using my headphones plugged direct into the KPA its only really obvious when i play back a recorded track in my DAW.It sounds like ive plugged my old ass Metalzone direct into my PC haha i shouldnt laugh cause its frustrating but what else can i do? haha.
Or try Parametric eq and low pass filter after stack section.
I usually do all that stuff within my DAW (cubase 10 pro) ive never attempted it on the unit itself...hmmm...
have you tried Pure Cab?
yeah dude ive had it disabled and enabled ive had it at every point lol but like i say i had this problem before owning a kemper using software such as bias amp etc.Im starting to think that im just shit at this thing or maybe its just the profiles and software thats shit i reckon its the first one lol i think im gonna get my buddy round hes way more educated at this than me maybe he could sprinkle some lovely magical unicorn dust on my setup and make it roar like a lion or something haha im sure somewhere along the line ive bolloxed the chain its just figuring out what (other than me) is the weak link i guess i dunno...hmmm...
Hey guys i know i know i know ive thrown this out there a few times now but im not sure what else to do now.I understand a few of you guys dont understand what i mean by "fizzy" so i recorded a little random piece.the main riff and the octave melody are both the same profile.The main problem seems to be this this phazey hissy fizz around the 5k mark but this problem is not just my kemper ive had this problem with every distorted related plugin ive ever used (Bias amp/bias fx/bias amp2 etc)_ive used multiple different interfaces im now using a clarett 4pre going into my HS7 monitors and i feel my sound is STILL no better than the £70 scarlett solo i purchased years ago.by the time EQ out that horrible sound the tone/profile is completely destroyed.It cant be my guitar because i get the same horrendous sound from all of my guitars and my guitars are quite high end running over £1000 each so surely its not my instrument.At first i thought it was my PC but ive had multiple PCs and and its still there.I think im losing my mind lol PLEASE tell me you hear it too guys...listen to the octave section...i purposely solo'd it so you can hear it.This sound happens with anything i use thats distorted.HELP!!
