IEM sound quality question...

Casper777 · Apr 21st 2016

Hello!

Recently I purchased a wireless monitoring system I want to use for reheasal and gigs... I bought a "budget" one to see if it is useful of not and ended up with a Shure PSM 200...

Now I find that the sound quality is quite poor, especially compared to the headphone quality of the Kemper.

Now the question is: from your experience, is the poort quality coming from the System (PSM 200) or from the IEM themselves (SE215). What do you think?

Don't know what to upgrade at this point... going to a Sennheiser EW300 or buying better earbuds? (or both)

digbob · Apr 21st 2016

better ear buds def
try shure 315
or ultimate ears triple fi
they are appr 200 euros but this helps

zamar · Apr 21st 2016

http://www.futuresonics.com/FSclients.html
i use these (all though i am using their least inexpensive pair of earbuds)
and their client following and users says it all.
Haven't had time to try them with the Kemper, but since u asked the question, i'll try them later today.

Andy_T-V · Apr 21st 2016

Have you tried the SE215s direct into the Kemper (with adapter)? If you like that sound then its down to the wireless. I use the 215s on a daily basis an find them to be excellent. When I used a radio pack with them it was a Sennheiser. Not sure which model but likely an EW100. Again this was fine. Some radios compress the bandwidth which spoils the sound. I notice Michael Britt uses a Line 6 setup, might be worth a look?

Casper777 · Apr 21st 2016

Quote from Andy_T-V

Have you tried the SE215s direct into the Kemper (with adapter)? If you like that sound then its down to the wireless. I use the 215s on a daily basis an find them to be excellent. When I used a radio pack with them it was a Sennheiser. Not sure which model but likely an EW100. Again this was fine. Some radios compress the bandwidth which spoils the sound. I notice Michael Britt uses a Line 6 setup, might be worth a look?

That's a good idea! what kind of adapter do I need?

Ingolf · Apr 21st 2016

Quote from Casper777

That's a good idea! what kind of adapter do I need?

I think mini- TRS to TRS.

Andy_T-V · Apr 21st 2016

Something like this:

https://shop.pimoroni.com/prod…JyLu7yZoMwCFeUy0wodxJUFNA

Jimmyno · Apr 21st 2016

I'm in love with my new InEar Stage Diver SD-2s.
They look and work (almost) as custom molded IEMs but they are (almost) universals.

In your cas, the main issue are probably the IEMs, try as the other suggested, but my opinion is that you need at least a dual driver in order to have a good rappresentation and less ear fatigue.

Raoul23 · Apr 21st 2016

Before I purchased my Sennheiser I read up on the PSM200 and the reviews were not that good. That's why I brought the IEM300 by Sennheiser. Good ear buds are essential though. I use 1964 V6 6 drivers in each ear phone and they sound incredible.

lonestargtr · Apr 22nd 2016

I use Ultimate Ears UE7 ear molds for stage use and for tweaking the Kemper at home instead of traditional headphones. They work great in both situations. If you plug your ear molds directly into the KPA and it sounds ok, then it's probably your transmitter/receiver. A lot of times, they are using analog compression/expansion in the wireless portion of the circuit that kinda screws with the tone a bit. Plus, some belt packs have a built in limiter which can make it sound super squashed. All ear buds, iem's, etc. have different tonal response to them, but if it sounds drastically different then it's probably the transmitter/receiver. My line 6 wireless units are just for my guitar and vocal wireless systems. We use Sennheiser ear monitor systems onstage.

Casper777 · Apr 22nd 2016

I will make the test this week end of the SE215 direct in the Kemper...

One more question regarding IEM.

Would you go for a 3 driver universal IEM (like the UE 900) or a custom molded 2 driver one (like 1964 A2)?!

Jimmyno · Apr 22nd 2016

Custom molded are always the best solution, besides the fact that you won't ever sell them without an incredible money loss.
But, before buying, ask 64ears to test their universals, in order to understand if you like the sound signature.

Casper777 · Apr 22nd 2016

Ok... After the test I can clearly say that the PSM200 unit is to blame... The SE215 in the Kemper have really a great sound!
Well I guess going the cheap way was not a good idea!
the solution is getting therefore more expensive!

Jimmyno · Apr 22nd 2016

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Ok... After the test I can clearly say that the PSM200 unit is to blame... The SE215 in the Kemper have really a great sound!
Well I guess going the cheap way was not a good idea!
the solution is getting therefore more expensive!

Besides the KPA I have never found a cheap solution for my gear Issues
Just Kiding, I have found the DB EME One being a nice and cheap wireless unit, pretty silent and with a good sound, but the range is very, very short.

Ingolf · Apr 22nd 2016

Been there before. I used to use an LD systems MEI unit and couldn't believe my in ear experience after upgrading to the Sennheiser EW300 G3. Night and day really.

kriswylde · Apr 22nd 2016

Yeah I bought the ew300 system too ! Works well with the shure 5xx in ears I have!

greenblob · Apr 22nd 2016

My 64 Audio (A6 model) custom molds arrive next week. Will be my first set of custom IEM's and I'm excited to hear (and feel) the difference. Have been using SE215's and they are good, but hoping for a big step up in sound and comfort with the A6's. They better be good - they weren't cheap!

Casper777 · Apr 22nd 2016

WOW A6! Pretty big upgrade

let us know what you think

will have to consider the Sennheiser but don't know if it's worth it as I do less and less gigs... For rehearsal only it may be a bit overkill

Joptunes · Apr 23rd 2016

Just received my JH Audio JH13v2 in ears and they sound great. These have 6 drivers per ear and a step up from my UE4s which were only 2 per side. It really helps keep a full band mix in control,especially the low end. Pricey but worth the investment.

sean

Raoul23 · Apr 23rd 2016

Quote from greenblob

My 64 Audio (A6 model) custom molds arrive next week. Will be my first set of custom IEM's and I'm excited to hear (and feel) the difference. Have been using SE215's and they are good, but hoping for a big step up in sound and comfort with the A6's. They better be good - they weren't cheap!

I have the 1964 V6 and they sound pretty good, keep us posted about the A6's and this new technology I'm very interested to know your thoughts

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