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    A punk song about role models today

  • I think you might be smashing the master buss and / or individual tracks way-too-much brother.


    Just for beer and skittles, why not try removing all compression and limiting from the project and re-bouncing? The idea would be to compare, reassess and progressively dial it back in 'til it no longer measures up to the unprocessed mix, then dial it back a bit.


    Just thinking out 'loud as an impulsive response I guess. HTH mate.

  • In this one case I’m going to disagree with you. I think you might be getting that impression from the vocals which are smashed the crud out of going through Reason’s scream distortion unit which is just nasty clipping Monkey_Man (and pushed really high in the mix along with their delay) as the only compressor in this track is a leveler on the bass guitar (I did try one on the master bus but didn’t like the result). There’s a lot of fuzz though too, the middle guitar has the Octavia fuzz effect and the bass is using the sabotage profile so is offers no respite from gain.


    The gain staging on the master bus is all green with no smashing anywhere as you can see from the waveform Master bus is UAD Ocean way (I had to cull some bass going into it because it creates quite a smeary mess otherwise). That goes into the Arturia tape sim which normally is a strong effect but here is a dialed back version of its “analog warmth” preset to just subtly add a little warble. Then that goes into the UAD 700 tape sim, adjusted so the input gain is low and the needle just peaks in red now and then but it’s output is high.

  • Thanks for the info brother.


    I wasn't influenced by the vocal distortion 'cause it was consistent and obviously-intentional.


    I can only surmise that the cumulative effect of all the other distortions & fuzz going on is what deceived me into thinking that the whole mix was squashed to the point of crunch. The drums get buried during "thick" passages and then re-emerge as the mix thins out. This too had an influence on my perception.


    Thanks again for clarifying brother.

  • Thanks Franjoe30 !


    Yeah Monkey_Man its just very loud overall and there’s just so much distortion, I think what’s happening is multiple things, during the chorus because those vocals are so high in the mix and so saturated and it’s such a primitive straight up digital clipping complete with aliasing saturation that it’s like adding every frequency to the sound like white noise and logically as you approach 50% mix (this isn’t that high, but it is quite high) any other waveform will simply lose its coherence completely and not be able to be accurately reconstructed by the sinc reconstruction filter on the other side. You definitely hear it’s the treble end that goes first. The next thing I think is simple limiting, the final UAD tape has a hot output it peaks at just over 0/-12dB on Reason’s master output during the chorus sections, that gives the impression there’s still 12dB of headroom but it!s possible that anything over that actually gets limited in some way during export and the speed off the transients was too much for the meter to accurately display resulting in a more smashed sound. Finally I think the ocean way plugin can do some very odd things to the sound, it’s a pretty good simulation of a room and like I said I had to cut the bass guitar going in because it tried to swamp everything else out like a boomy old speaker, I think some of that is also happening when the vocals kick in but I didn’t take the same steps with them.

  • Nice one Per. Raw energy :thumbup:8)


    Any recent case in the media that inspired you for that role model topic? I had some serious discussion here today with a teenager on Will's behaviour and the story around it. Crazy world :rolleyes:

  • I see Chris Rock walking on stage to this tune wearing a football helmet at next year's Oscars, and saying "Any husbands in the audience with bald-headed wives?" :D

    Larry Mar @ Lonegun Studios. Neither one famous yet.

  • Sounds like a live recording, which is cool, at first I thought too much distortion, but listening till the end I like that, gives the track a massive energy feel. Good stuff Per, you have a track for every genre lol. Ever tried some Black or Death Metal haha, I know you can.

    "Music makes the world a better place. Music doesn't lie. If there is something to be changed in this world, then it can only happen through music."

    Jimi Hendrix.

  • Please don't, we are saturated with CM vocals lol, but the music, yes man, do it :)

    "Music makes the world a better place. Music doesn't lie. If there is something to be changed in this world, then it can only happen through music."

    Jimi Hendrix.