OS 5.0 Experiences thread

Quote from OneEng1

It may be a bad USB stick or something along that line, but whatever it is, I had NO indication that the backup wasn't successful.

@OneEng1
sorry to hear this.
you might be right about the USB stick - I probably made more backups than most, several a day due to the ever changing content of my Profilers and I never had a similar issue.

there are tools that check if the USB stick has indeed the size it claims. If a fraudulent USB stick tricks the OS to believe it has 128GB, while it only 64GB - any file written on it after the actually existing 64GBs are reached would have a size of 0kB.

hth

Can anybody of you guys confirm that:

reverse
half speed
undo

of the looper does not work anymore since 5.0 beta?
I have that problem with an FCB1010 with EurekaProm3 via midi. But perhaps its global and occurs under using UNO and REMOTE , or non-midi switches too? Just interested to know.

Quote from Eltzejupp

have you stored some old backupfiles from your stick on your computer? I aske because when you rename the .backup file to .tar file and you untar or unzip it you see a folder with your saved rigs in this backup and you can import the rigs again. I hope you have this chance.

Really sorry to hear that man!! I had some bad USB sticks when I first got my KPA and ever since have backed up not just to the stick, but to a folder on my MAC which is pure golden backup to me. I hope it works out well for you!!

@DonPeterson,

Thanks for the response.

Is there any way we could get a read-back-check built into the backup to verify that the file actually got created correctly?

I used 2 different USB sticks and had the issue on both of them. One was an SD card adapter to USB, and the other was a SanDisk. Neither one seemed unusual and both worked fine in the PC.

One thing I've read about is to make sure you delete everything off the drive before first inserting into the kpa and having the kpa "format" it. Not sure if that's consistently an issue

Quote from OneEng1

@DonPeterson,

Thanks for the response.

Is there any way we could get a read-back-check built into the backup to verify that the file actually got created correctly?

I used 2 different USB sticks and had the issue on both of them. One was an SD card adapter to USB, and the other was a SanDisk. Neither one seemed unusual and both worked fine in the PC.

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PCs are funny machines. It could just be that there was a sudden freeze on something on the computer that wiped out/corrupted the USB sticks. Sorry to hear about this, getting everything back *exactly* the way it was may be impossible due to so many parameters.

Heck, maybe you could even set it better.

Quote from OneEng1

Sad day for me. This was my first unpleasant experience with the Kemper

Been traveling lately and took a day off. Thought to myself, lets check out the new Kemper 5.0 firmware.

I have been on 3.3 for some time, and really didn't have anything to complain about. Still, I thought it would be good to bring things up to speed now that I would soon be 2 full major revisions behind .... and the new delays really did sound cool from the clips posted here.

Being careful, I backed up my 3.3 setup. I have spent endless hours tweaking and expanding my rig since 2014, so I really wanted to be careful.

Ok, so I do the backup, everything looks good. I put the backup on my PC for safe keeping and go on with my updates.

The 5.0 upgrade worked flawlessly. It was easy to follow the instructions given in this thread to get the new FX presets loaded, and away I went playing around with delay bliss

When I got around to going through my performances that I have been using, I thought I noticed that the distortion seemed a bit on the heavy side. It was almost as if there was added gain to every rig. I pondered this a while, then thought, well, this is easy enough to verify. I will just restore my 3.3 rig and give it another listen.

Before I do, I create another backup of my 5.0 setup so it will be easier to get back to it after I take a listen to the 3.3 restore.

Put the backup onto the USB drive, and ...... the backup is "corrupt beyond repair". Hmmm. This isn't a good sign. The Kemper goes into some base setup asking for the date of shipment and my name again like it is fresh out of the box.

I look at the file and notice that it is 0Kb! Not good.

I think ... well, I guess I'll go back to the 5.0 beta backup. I check the file.... it is 0Kb also!

So now here is where I sit:

• I still have all my purchased rigs, but they are all in their original setup. Tons of work to get everything back where it was.
• I have a backup from 2014 when I upgraded to 3 or 2 I think, but that wouldn't be much better than just doing all the work again.

I am NOT happy about this. I also found that there was another 0K backup file from december 2014, so this has been going on for some time I suspect.

It may be a bad USB stick or something along that line, but whatever it is, I had NO indication that the backup wasn't successful.

I am now sitting with a REALLY base unit (no rigs) that I have to reload which will take me days of effort.

Let my pain be your warning. Check your backup files to be sure they actually contain something. The Kemper will not tell you that something went wrong and you will be left with a false sense of security.... and no backup.

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Very sorry for your lost rig setup. very frustrating that can be. However, I dont think the 5.0 upgrade actually changed rig sounds but perhaps it reset something like an output eq, clean or dist sense, or if you had a new delay on the grit parameter. You might just consider setting back up the way like in the newer system. The last time I had one of these OHHHHHH NOOOO moments and had to rebuild I ended up changing a few things and liked my rig better..

Quote from Micha22

Can anybody of you guys confirm that:

reverse
half speed
undo

of the looper does not work anymore since 5.0 beta?
I have that problem with an FCB1010 with EurekaProm3 via midi. But perhaps its global and occurs under using UNO and REMOTE , or non-midi switches too? Just interested to know.

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Same here, reverse and half speed now don't work via midi with the looper. Down to the basic play/record and stop functions.

Yes,
same here:
Undo, reverse, half-speed don´t work with the "old" Midi-commands.

Martin

I use the remote and have tested this, works fine.So might be a midi change.

Quote from Micha22

Can anybody of you guys confirm that:

reverse
half speed
undo

of the looper does not work anymore since 5.0 beta?
I have that problem with an FCB1010 with EurekaProm3 via midi. But perhaps its global and occurs under using UNO and REMOTE , or non-midi switches too? Just interested to know.

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Maybe this:

• Burkhard
  MIDI Parameter Documentation (Rev. 145)21 minutes agoThere is a new revision 145 of the Profiler MIDI Parameter Documentation in line with operating system 5.0

There I was excited for a split quarter note. Rev.145 doesn't reveal the secret either

Please, pretty please, can we have the magic spells to invoke the looper goodness in all it's glory?

Quote from reneguitar

Maybe this:

• Burkhard
  MIDI Parameter Documentation (Rev. 145)21 minutes agoThere is a new revision 145 of the Profiler MIDI Parameter Documentation in line with operating system 5.0

huge font changed to default sized font

Don't plan on seeing any mention of looper functions in the midi documentation. It is not formally supported through midi use so you won't see it mentioned.

On another note, thanks for adding looper volume to the NRPN list so it can be adjusted via midi.
Also, am I reading it correctly that to turn hold feature on/off in any given slot is via NRPN as well?

Thanks
Sean

Yes, it works, tried it.
CC35 for the "hold"-feature is a toggle-switch (different to the documentation)... any value sent changes the state of hold. If you have two delays in two different slots, both hold in both slots will be changed with cc35.
with the nrpn commands you can trigger just the hold in one slot. Great!
Allready implemented that in my footcontroller

Martin

@OneEng1

Are you sure, you are waiting until the backup process is over and the confirmation message "Backup completed" appears on the Profiler display? Because if you don't, you will create an empty backup file on the USB stick. However, if you unmount the USB stick too early, a warning message will appear. But if you shut down the Profiler during the backup operation, there will be no message.

All this is not related to 5.0 in particular by the way.

I just found (and reported to support) my first 5.0 problem.

I had created a bunch of morphed rigs and used them happily with no issues. I went to make adjustments to them (created in earlier operating system obviously) and was surprised when the values wouldn't change! (yes, I tried this with both the 'Morph Button" On and Off). It's as if they are locked.

When I tried this on some very recent rigs from RM - there were no issues changing values for morphing.

Any ideas what's going on here or what I may be missing with the 'older' morphs I made?

@mortl
Thanks, I skipped right over the CC35 line to turn hold in/off for the delay slot.
Thanks
Sean

Quote from Burkhard

@OneEng1

Are you sure, you are waiting until the backup process is over and the confirmation message "Backup completed" appears on the Profiler display? Because if you don't, you will create an empty backup file on the USB stick. However, if you unmount the USB stick too early, a warning message will appear. But if you shut down the Profiler during the backup operation, there will be no message.

All this is not related to 5.0 in particular by the way.

Yea. I waited until the screen showed the backup was complete, then I pressed "OK" exited the menu, and removed the USB stick.

You are correct, none of this has anything to do with 5.0, and the delay's are truly wonderful. They exceed my expectations by quite a bit. I didn't know you could do so much with a delay effect.