Do you think it's too expensive?

  • Assuming everybody here owns a KPA I'm kind of surprised by this question. But I do find the different responses very interesting. Especially when it comes to perceived value.


    Speaking for myself, I've never owned any piece of guitar gear where the manufacturer constantly updates it for free, adds new features, the customer service is stellar, the sounds are phenomenal and always repeatable. There's literally thousands of sounds to be had for free. And you can buy profiles of practically any amp ever known to exist. Plus you can make your own. What's that worth? What else does this?


    It's worth every penny Kemper asks for.

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  • lol germans talk to germans
    _ assembled in Germany.


    An it's still buggy after...how many years? ;)


    I would not talk about german quality.

    The betas are buggy, not the official FW's, I played my KPA on several tours, not one single problem. I had several PODs and always some problems.


    German quality? BMW, Mercedes, Audi / Neumann, SPL, ADAM / Steinberg + Logic (both originally from Hamburg), Native Instruments, Ableton Live, Melodyne ect.... ;)
    And now the French ones...

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  • Even iOS8 is buggy after how many years?! That's the way it is with software. It has nothing to do with Germany or other countries.

    I could have farted and it would have sounded good! (Brian Johnson)

  • The betas are buggy, not the official FW's, I played my KPA on several tours, not one single problem. I had several PODs and always some problems.


    German quality? BMW, Mercedes, Audi / Neumann, SPL, ADAM / Steinberg + Logic (both originally from Hamburg), Native Instruments, Ableton Live, Melodyne ect.... ;)
    And now the French ones...



    Hmmm... I wouldn't put Logic forward as an example of German engineering! :)


    (and being a mechanical engineer by profession, German engineering is of course something I have high respect for ;-))

  • From my experience I'd say the KPA is built extremely well I've had no issues at all. I gig at least 10 times a month and haven't had the KPA let me down at any gigs so to me this is a great bonus. I know the guitarist in my old band was always having issues with his amp heads eg vales etc.


    I personally do think the KPA has been well thought about before being put on the market it's a great a solution to many peoples needs I for one now have the best live sound I've ever had and carry around less gear so all in all it's defo worth every penny!!!!

  • The KPA is pure innovation, not a repackaging or a remake of something else. Apart from its totally new technologie to capture amps you can also see it in the audacious design of the hardware itself.


    This companie definitely look forward and it worths a lot to my eyes and, most importantly, to my ears! :D

  • For what it offers, the base model KPA is at a very good price range.
    For the powered version, there are cheaper third party power alternative add-ons that will do the trick a little cheaper if you just get the base model and add-on.
    The exception being the Rack. The powered rack makes sense price-wise.


    But "worth it" is a personal measure. For a person wanting/needing only one amp tone, the KPA is not "over-priced" so much as "over-featured".
    That's the only thing I can see holding someone back from owning one.


    For many who had multiple amps, recorded them and had the gear to record them, getting a KPA and selling off un-needed gear saved a ton of money.


    I'd submit to the OP that just selling off a rather decently sized pedal-board would garner you the price of admission!

  • Logic is/was Emagic and based in Rellingen near Hamburg.
    Bought by Apple (of course) for its quality.

    Absolutely right, I used Emagic-software ("Notator" later "Logic") many years ago on an ATARI ST. Apple bought 2002 the whole company, here's some info.


    Some other German inventions: the first free programmable computer (1941 Konrad Zuse), MP3 (1982 Frauenhofer Institute / Karlheinz Brandenburg), first video-recorder (1961 Loewe), TV (1886 Paul Nipkow), the first car (1886 Carl Benz), airbag (1951 Walter Linderer) and much more.... finally the first profiling amp (2012 CK) ;)

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  • lol germans talk to germans
    _ assembled in Germany.


    An it's still buggy after...how many years? ;)


    I would not talk about german quality.


    Despite so many posts and critics from you, I cannot remember to have received a valid bug report or comparison clip from you ever. :)

  • Absolutely right, I used Emagic-software ("Notator" later "Logic") many years ago on an ATARI ST. Apple bought 2002 the whole company, here's some info.


    Some other German inventions: the first free programmable computer (1941 Konrad Zuse), MP3 (1982 Frauenhofer Institute / Karlheinz Brandenburg), first video-recorder (1961 Loewe), TV (1886 Paul Nipkow), the first car (1886 Carl Benz), airbag (1951 Walter Linderer) and much more.... finally the first profiling amp (2012 CK) ;)


    The betas are buggy, not the official FW's, I played my KPA on several tours, not one single problem. I had several PODs and always some problems.


    German quality? BMW, Mercedes, Audi / Neumann, SPL, ADAM / Steinberg + Logic (both originally from Hamburg), Native Instruments, Ableton Live, Melodyne ect.... ;)
    And now the French ones...


    Lol and i forgot to talk about the issue with the lights. Germans are champion for saying they are the champions...that's for sure.


    Concerning cars, you probably want to talk about the famous Porsche Boxster 986. It suffered from a severe problem wich led to many broken engines.
    The quality of german cars is a myth.
    That's what conclude the UK insurer Warranty Direct based on 50 000 cases and they are not the only ones to get this conclusion.(i can't find the european institute which make the count of car's cases)
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    The japanese cars have the best fiability.
    Now if you tell me that french cars look ugly, i agree, though the last ones look better.(The french old cars looked really better Delahaye, Dedion Bouton, Panhard Levassor)
    French are not involved into music industry, just the IRCAM and Flux (http://www.fluxhome.com/) but does it mean that french don't know how to do it?


    German don't like comparaison with french....it always ended bad...for them. That's the drama.


    So basically you have companies which build audio plugins using a 200 year old french technology (Joseph Fourier).
    Now what do french for example.


    We decided in 70s to keep our technology and worked alone on our fight plane. The result is the Rafale 100% french (engine made by Snecma).
    Germans build with english and italians the Eurofighter. The Eurofighter can't compete with the Rafale. The Rafale do all. It's a bomber, an interceptor and there is a marine version. The Eurofighter can't fly as the Rafale is able to do.
    It wins all the time against the Eurofighter in real tests, he even won against the F22 that's why the Pentagone classified the Rafale as a classe 5 GEN.
    The Rafale is not a BMW i'm sorry for you.
    We build our own tanks, submarines and boats. You can check the two ones built for russian government (1 billion each one) which are suspended actually due to ukrainian crisis.
    We build huge cruise boat too for american companies.


    Now let's talk about reliability. The ESA use Arianespace's service for launching his satellites. Arianespace is french and has the leadership in satellite launching with more than 50% of the world market.
    We have our own nuclear plant technology that we sell all around the world and recently we developped a technic which allow to know exactly the pressure inside the uranium sticks. This should allow to use them longer and safely. Sorry but it's unique in the world.


    Last year the CARMAT company has built a fully automatic (and autonom) heart. This heart uses organic tissue and you don't have to take anti inflammatory drugs. It's a mondial event. It is still tested and has been used 75 days by the first patient. The older faculty of medicine in europe is french, based in Montpellier (10th century). It is the older in activity in the world.


    Now let's talk about math. In 1956 Laurent Schwartz won the Field's medal with his distribution's theory. This theory is used today all around the world by all engineers mathematicians and physicians every days in every fields.
    By the way the one who found E= MC² was the french mathematician Henri Poincaré in 1900 not Einstein.
    At this time Einstein was looking for help for doing maths.
    In 2003 the conjecture of Poincaré was solved by Grigori Perelman who won the Field's medal and refused it.
    I could go on and on...
    We don't need any help in mathematic, physics or mechanic. The elites all around the world know that.
    (the metric system that you use is french, made in 1789 during the french revolution lol. It is used all around the world except by american and english people)

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