[Public Beta] PROFILER OS 8.0.0.21450
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Nothing particularly useful here apart from to say Chugg ++
Thanks Kemper - the additional distortion modelling works for me.
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Hi!
I have not found a video from you in this thread. Can you post it again?
About taking analog ODs on the input: Over the years there have been hundreds of confirmations (because many people ask if it's good) that the Profiler - and any other digital modeler - take analog pedals without problem.
I know dosens of players personally that I talk to frequently, that use analog ODs with the Profiler since years.
The Clean Sens is not a hurdle for that. However, changing Clean Sens on the fly will change the boost of the OD, just like changing the ODs volume. That's a natural fact that cannot be avoided, but by leaving Clean Sens at zero or at an other preferred setting for the time being.
If an OD does not sound good with the Profiler, it might be about the Profile used. We could step into this topic further, if you like.
About headroom issues: What issue exactly are you referring to? We had at least 3 independent topics.
I use a greer lightspeed and an old silver klon in front of my kemper, IT sounds FANTASTIC,,also a POT ,They work just like they do in front of my matchless,, princeton, and morgan AC20,,it takes analog pedals PERFECTLY,,,,,,Just like an amp,,
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for replication , i made DI , result with KPA ,,,and this rig profile ...
Everyone who have option for reamping (digital or analog ) - can replicate it ....
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1FlwpYu2DhEFN6hA_AfWHPSxGYffg19yE
I reamped your DI using your settings:
https://drive.google.com/file/…-F8Z_pgIz60idzLBPOLZQ3w5E
edit: I used SPDIF for reamping as it is the set up that I have for that
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Try to up input level a bit ,,and your results will be identical to my ...
this means - what "digital clipping " - is not only my problem ....
Reamp Sens is at 12 dB
SPDIF Output is at 0dB maximum output. This means I cannot up the input level anymore.
What do you think of my result? I think it is not as harsh as yours. Have you updated to the last beta?
Oh, and after that the level on the meter in my DAW is EXACTLY the same as your WAV file.
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I have upped the level of the DI track to max +12dB that my DAW allows to.
This is the result. I didn't change anything else on the settings so the result is louder obviously.
https://drive.google.com/file/…UHauRTtZnwS6VKfTJZXkLLcAS
I still think it is less harsh than yours. Do you hear the same?
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artembankin
until this issue is resolved, I'd like to treat it as S/PDIF troubleshooting, since this is the "[Public Beta] PROFILER OS 8.0.0.21450" threadplease open a new thread in the appropiate forum and I'l move the relevant posts from this thread to the new thread.
thank you
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This is a not spdif problem ,and i `m not using spdif .,...
We are talking about comparison with new kemper OD and real pedals .....
where does spdif ?????
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reamping then
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No ,i`m using analog path ....
And with most of my tests ,which i posted in thsi topic i`m not using reamping
all is recorded directly
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I'm loving the new Kemper Drive. I used to stack two Green Screams in order to get a fat lead tone with my Strat through a D-style amp but Kemper Drive into Green Scream sounds so much better! Especially at the Klon settings. Great work!!
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very nice demonstration of the issue.
There is a new beta version. Rig Manager offered to update as soon as I opened it.
Would you please try it and see if you still have the same problem? I tried your profile when I had already updated to the last beta and volume pot seems to keep working passed 2.3 value.
I don't really know if it is solved with the new beta or if it is a device related bug only affecting your unit. Or maybe it is just that the changes after value 2.3 make the guitar get lost in your mix instead of what should be desired that is coming forward in the mix.
I have checked that Rig.
I could not find any volume drop as well, when I turned KD Volume.
Can you check again?
Please also check with another pedal, such as the Green Scream or any other distortion effect.
The FX Volume engine is generic for all effects.
CK
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No ,i`m using analog path ....
And with most of my tests ,which i posted in thsi topic i`m not using reamping
all is recorded directly
You have this harshness with other pedals such as the Green Scream as well,
Distortions too? Are there any other annormalies with your Profiler?
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Here are my thoughts after checking the KD 808 presets against my TS Mini, 80s TS9 and the Green Scream.
Setting the controls on the physical pedals as shown in the Addendum, I didn't feel that the presets were as close as I assumed; slightly disappointing. Because of all this talk of levelling etc., I tried to balance the volume of the physical pedals with the KD without the Amplifier and Cabinet modules engaged. As an added extra, I didn't notice any extra harsh top end, listening through a Headrush 108, which I have at home. However, once balanced, engaging the Amp and Cab modules once again gave much closer results. The tone and drive structure are pretty much identical. One thing I noticed though, was that the pedals were consistently louder, sometimes giving the impression that they were more dynamic, with a rounder bottom and sparklier highs. Adjusting for the difference in volumes on the Headrush though revealed this to be false.
Comparing the Green Scream, it seems to me to be slightly more nasal, a touch more compressed and focused, though I can't rule out confirmation bias here. It's definitely slightly different in tone, though I didn't go back and balance the volumes without the Amp and Cab, like I did with the KD.
My friend has borrowed my 1:1 Klon clone and my own hand-built Klon, so I can't do a proper comparison of these, though my initial impression when the beta dropped was very favourable when comparing the physical pedals to the presets, again using the diagrams in the Addendum as a reference for the knob positions.
Thanks a ton to Kemper and all the beta testers here
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I've found my first bug!!
So I loaded the beta, and totally forgot I had a gig, so went with it....set my gear up, plugged in my remote and....no stomps in performance mode.
Checked the cable, all fine and stomps showed up in browse mode but in performance, no stomps showing on the remote. The stomps were working on my KPA and working but just not showing on my remote. I quickly noticed they did work on one profile I had the new OD's on but all the others they were not there ( hence I know its not a cable issue).
Luckily I don;t really use stomps during a gig so no issue...
DonPetersen is this the right place to post this? If not please move..
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Here are my thoughts after checking the KD 808 presets against my TS Mini, 80s TS9 and the Green Scream.
Setting the controls on the physical pedals as shown in the Addendum, I didn't feel that the presets were as close as I assumed; slightly disappointing. Because of all this talk of levelling etc., I tried to balance the volume of the physical pedals with the KD without the Amplifier and Cabinet modules engaged. As an added extra, I didn't notice any extra harsh top end, listening through a Headrush 108, which I have at home. However, once balanced, engaging the Amp and Cab modules once again gave much closer results. The tone and drive structure are pretty much identical. One thing I noticed though, was that the pedals were consistently louder, sometimes giving the impression that they were more dynamic, with a rounder bottom and sparklier highs. Adjusting for the difference in volumes on the Headrush though revealed this to be false.
Comparing the Green Scream, it seems to me to be slightly more nasal, a touch more compressed and focused, though I can't rule out confirmation bias here. It's definitely slightly different in tone, though I didn't go back and balance the volumes without the Amp and Cab, like I did with the KD.
My friend has borrowed my 1:1 Klon clone and my own hand-built Klon, so I can't do a proper comparison of these, though my initial impression when the beta dropped was very favourable when comparing the physical pedals to the presets, again using the diagrams in the Addendum as a reference for the knob positions.
Thanks a ton to Kemper and all the beta testers here
The Green Scream and the Kemper Drive have identical circuits, when Definition, Slim Down and Tone is set accordingly.
We don't give recommendations about the volume settings of the originals, as it depends in a number of circumstances such as Clean Sens. This is why the volume knob on the pictures are greyed out.
For an A/B test, simply level the volume by the volume knobs of the analog pedals.
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The Green Scream and the Kemper Drive have identical circuits, when Definition, Slim Down and Tone is set accordingly....
That was expected, but it will definitely shock all the guys, that did not like the Green Scream and wanted a "better" Tubescreamer!
The KD is just a Green Scream Deluxe and with the same settings it will even sound equal?!